(04-10-2021, 05:32 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Hey! Don't lump me in the the THT guys!

(04-10-2021, 05:30 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: This board and their hopeless dreams. A THT, Holmes super team is only months away!

Right now I am thinking Demar might be the BPA that Mavs actually have a shot at signing. There are other options for sure but since Spurs are in rebuild mode Demar seems like the most available and talented of the veteran group of FAs left.

Demar at least fits a position of need, even if it's not a perfect fit. I like THJ but I would rather have DR over Richardson and THJ. Mavs can try to add defense, shooting to the bench.

(04-10-2021, 06:15 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I would rather have Conley but I think his preference would be to stay if the money works out. It's really down to how much LT the Jazz can stomach.

I think DR is not mutually exclusive with JB. In fact without two 30 mpg guys you would be upgrading JB to a 30 mpg guy. I think you would try to win with the best offense. DFS, Maxi, KP and even Luka can play defense so I think you can live with DR on D.

(04-10-2021, 06:42 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: My list is:

Spend big money (25M - 30M):

Guard - Lonzo (NOP), 
Wing - DeRozan (SAS)
Big - Collins (ATL)

MLE money (5M-10M):

Guard - McConnell (IND), Brown (HOU)
Wing - McDermott (IND), Bazemore (GSW)
Big - Olynyk (HOU), Theis (BOS)

(04-10-2021, 03:36 PM)mvossman Wrote: The trade off is THJ+JRich+Melli+MLE vs 34 mil.  Can you get more value out of 34 mil than those 4 slots.  I think that will be tough to do.  Free agency is not known for its bargains.  If you look at that free agency two years ago, how many Seth Curry value contracts were signed?  Most of them turned out closer to Delon Wright value.  There may be a couple this time, but a lot of buyers in the MLE market.  You would have to get it just right to be worth it.

(04-10-2021, 11:22 PM)Branduil Wrote: Derozan would be an atrocious fit with Luka. How many times do we have to try this non-shooting guard thing next to him.

(04-10-2021, 11:22 PM)Branduil Wrote: Derozan would be an atrocious fit with Luka. How many times do we have to try this non-shooting guard thing next to him.

(04-10-2021, 11:22 PM)Branduil Wrote: Derozan would be an atrocious fit with Luka. How many times do we have to try this non-shooting guard thing next to him.

(04-11-2021, 08:16 AM)HAguiar95 Wrote: We can't go out there and get another "3&D" player with questionable shot creation and playmaking. It would mean disaster come playoff time.

(04-10-2021, 10:45 PM)mvossman Wrote: When was the last time "win with the best offense" took the title?  I don't think a team has won a title in the last 20 years without being a top 10 defense.  It can't be ignored.  There is diminishing returns with offense.  Both Luka and DR are at their best when they have the ball, and any combination of those three is going to be bad defensively.  Seems like the best reason to get DR is that he is "gettable".

(04-11-2021, 09:03 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Out on DeRozan. Walking net negative. Only one season in his entire career with positive on/off numbers. This year the Spurs defense is 9.9 points better when he is on the bench. I would probably take him in the Brunson/THJ role. Offense of the bench and closing some games but he probably still wants to start. Not to mention that he wants starter money.

(04-11-2021, 09:19 AM)Mavs03 Wrote: Count me in on Talen Horton-Tucker.  In 4 games for the month of April, when giving a chance to play, he's averaging 16 points 5 assists 4 rebounds and an impressive 3 steals in 27 minutes per game.  He's shooting 43% from the field, 50% from 3, and 83% from the FT line.  He's 20 years old.  He's 6'4" with an incredible 7'1" wingspan.  He fits our timeline.  The question is how much are you willing to spend if you're Dallas?  He's restricted so the Lakers in theory could match.  Refresh my memory, but are the Lakers limited in how much they can offer him?  

On a side note, can we hire someone from the Lakers scouting department?  They're very good in drafting players.  Some of them are All Stars for other teams as well as good role players.

(04-11-2021, 09:05 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: I am willing to give it a go. I think DR would be good asset management as well. I don't see a player or package of players that's going to give the Mavs a top defense anyway. If like Kawhi was available then great let's go get him, problem solved. But if it's like THJ + JR + MLE or DR + mini-MLE, give me the latter. 

I also think dependent on the contract you might be able to do DR + some other piece (JR even?) + mini-MLE. I am not a fan of JR in particular bc his inefficient offense and bad outside shooting but if he's on a 1-yr maybe that's okay.

Mavs might go down the RFA route but that will probably cost some assets if it works, and I am not sure there is a deal to be made. Regarding DR I have been against trading for him for years for some of the same reasons brought up now, but that was also when you would be giving up assets like a pick and/or Brunson to get DR. Now you can get him for just cap dollars and that changes the equation.

(04-11-2021, 09:54 AM)mvossman Wrote: We don't need to be a top defense, we just need to be good.  Since the all-star break, after we mostly recovered from the Covid disaster, I believe we have a top 5 offense and a top 10 defense.  We are already good.  Putting DR in the starting lineup will reverse all the work they did to make this a better defensive team.  There was a reason they inserted Maxi into the starting lineup and traded for JRich.