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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-05-2021 (04-05-2021, 09:54 PM)cow Wrote: Utah has 134m committed next year without Conley. He's going to want 30+ a year. I don't know how many teams will give a 33 year old that much but he will probably cost a number that would make it hard for Utah to keep him. I think Mavs are in a good spot to give him an attractive offer. There aren't a lot of playoff-type teams that also have cap space like the Mavs. To me if he is priced out of Utah, Mavs would be one of the leading options to steal him away. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-05-2021 (04-05-2021, 10:16 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: He won’t lack for suitors. Dallas, for instance, is craving a secondary ballhandler to pair next to Luka Doncic and just so happens to have about $35 million in cap room coming its way. Could the Mavs offer a three-year deal worth $110 million to lure CP3 to Texas as the third pillar of an All-Star triangle next to Doncic and Kristaps Porzingis? I like CP3 but no thanks. I think he makes sense where he is right now. I don't like the fit in Dallas and I don't want to pay a dude that old on a multi-year deal, that's just nuts. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - cow - 04-05-2021 I've been the ant-OG person on the board, but I'd take CP3. Not sure about a 3YR deal unless the 3rd year was a very low, partial gaurentee. Part of the pitch would be to move CP3 into the coaching or front office. I'd love to have him in a player development and/or recruiting role after he takes our Luka/Jalen under his wing while playing here. CP3 was rumored to come here with Dwight way back when, no? If you wanted to make a title run next year, you could do worse than those two, even at their advanced ages. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - DanSchwartzgan - 04-06-2021 One issue with both Paul and Conley is they are represented by the same agency that represents Brunson. It doesn't prevent them from coming to the Mav's, but if given the choice, the agent would prefer to not put their own guy in a position that might limit another client's path to a bigger role and more money. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - omahen - 04-06-2021 (04-05-2021, 10:16 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Conley Conley for JRich would be an upgrade. Conley for both JRich and THJ? Not so sure RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - DanSchwartzgan - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 01:37 AM)omahen Wrote: Conley for JRich would be an upgrade. Conley for both JRich and THJ? Not so sure Yeah, that's another issue with the elderly PG's. Still another is Brunson is demoted to the third guard role...not even the Jet role...if one of those guys is on the roster. I still like the Theis idea...especially if Melli hangs around and shoots worse than Powell. The Melli/Powell combo was nicely positive against Utah, but at some point if you are going to play 5-out, one of your backup bigs has to hit a three in addition to playing great D. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - cow - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 01:37 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: One issue with both Paul and Conley is they are represented by the same agency that represents Brunson. It doesn't prevent them from coming to the Mav's, but if given the choice, the agent would prefer to not put their own guy in a position that might limit another client's path to a bigger role and more money. Having Paul mentor Brunson is a huge part of why I'd consider the move. Theis really doesn't excite me but if you could have him at a similar contract to what he's on now, sure. I still want D12 on a 1 year bargain basement contract. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - DanSchwartzgan - 04-06-2021 From The Ringer. The do their Power Rankings with one question about each team for the rest of the season. The Bull question is about the fit of Markkanen: 21. Chicago Bulls | PR: 20 ↓ Is there any salvaging Lauri Markkanen? Congratulations to the Bulls for getting their first win with Nikola Vucevic on Sunday against the Nets (without James Harden and Kevin Durant). During the win, they once again experimented using Markkanen at small forward. It hasn’t exactly gone well. Markkanen has a size advantage on offense, but only theoretically since he plays like he’s one foot shorter than he is by hovering around the perimeter. Defensively, he’s struggling to contain his assignments. Bulls head coach Billy Donovan is throwing darts trying to figure out how to effectively fit Markkanen into his rotation. There’s a chance Markkanen can be a productive player, so the franchise is doing everything possible to see whether there’s a way to make things work with him. But in his career, he’s been a slightly below-average shooter at 36 percent from 3 and he’s not much of a playmaker. He doesn’t rebound much for his size. And he doesn’t get many stops defensively. Markkanen isn’t a fit in Chicago. The question now is whether he’ll fit anywhere at all. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - DanSchwartzgan - 04-06-2021 (04-04-2021, 11:22 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Thanks for posting that. I thought the write-up comparing JRich to THJ was fascinating.. It points out Richardson’s 3% is trending the right way (though the sample size is only 21 for 52). What I’m more interested in is whether our Defensive Specialist is actually good at D. Post All-Star break his D-Rating is down to 113 (from 116) and his O-Rating is up to 111 (from 108) and his +/- is +4.7 vs. -3.9 before the break. If you are going to argue JRich is anything different than what we had with Delon Wright, then the argument has to start with on-court effectiveness. I'll add another bargain name to keep an eye on if we move on from JRich (or decide to start Brunson next season). Sterling Brown is quietly having a nice season on a bad team. Over 40% from 3. Good D and very switchable. Gets the other team's primary ball handler much of the time like JRich. His TS% is right at .600, which is kind of nuts for a guard on a team with the 27th rated offense. He is UFA this summer. Went to SMU and is an award winning actor in his spare time. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - michaeltex - 04-06-2021 NBA radio this morning was spitballing what Chris Paul would do after the season. He has a PO at $44M for next year. They were saying he could opt out and try to get something like $65M over 2 years or $90M over 3 with 3rd year options and/or incentives. They were also trying to determine how CP could end up with LAL after all these years. One scenario was for him to opt into his $44M then get traded, almost a sign and trade deal. PHX would get Schroeder and others back. A question I have is whether an opt in was tradeable. I thought there was some trade protections on that type of deal. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Mavs2021 - 04-06-2021 If the current upward trajectory culminates with a decent play-off performance, they´ll use Powell+Burke (+WCS if necessary) + assets (players/picks) to acquire a player. I think we messed up already by not getting in on the Allen/Prince deal. That would have been the perfect combination for our team needs. Doncic/Brunson Richardson/THJ DFS/Prince Porzingis/Kleber Allen/Theis (MLE) This really hurts. No weakness in the rotation. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - JamesConway - 04-06-2021 Conley can eat a stinky one. He had the opportunity to sign here but didn’t want to. No second chances. Brunson is the future anyway, I’d just start him and sign him to an extension. He has earned it. Always performs, great locker room guy, constant improvement every year. That’s a building block right there and probably the second best player on the roster all things considered. The time to trade for CP3 was last year. Unfortunately we didn’t. He’s still an elite PG but I don’t want to be the team that signs him to an even longer contract that he already has. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:29 AM)michaeltex Wrote: NBA radio this morning was spitballing what Chris Paul would do after the season. He has a PO at $44M for next year. They were saying he could opt out and try to get something like $65M over 2 years or $90M over 3 with 3rd year options and/or incentives. Isn't the most obvious scenario CP3 just stays with Phoenix? He wanted to be there and the team is 2nd in the West. Why not just opt into 44 mil and give it another go? RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:52 AM)JamesConway Wrote: Conley can eat a stinky one. He had the opportunity to sign here but didn’t want to. No second chances. Not true at all. Certainly the Mavs won't think that way. Jazz have very high salary rolls. 11 players making 134 million. Luxury tax is at 136 so I would think just filling out the roster with vet mins and/or rookies already gets you into luxury tax mode without Conley. I don't know what the appetite is for the Jazz to get into Warriors-esque Luxury tax levels. To me Conley is definitely a guy that could be available. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Mavs2021 - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 07:57 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I'll add another bargain name to keep an eye on if we move on from JRich (or decide to start Brunson next season). Sterling Brown is quietly having a nice season on a bad team. Over 40% from 3. Good D and very switchable. Gets the other team's primary ball handler much of the time like JRich. His TS% is right at .600, which is kind of nuts for a guard on a team with the 27th rated offense. He is UFA this summer. Went to SMU and is an award winning actor in his spare time. I´m somewhat shaky on his numbers, cause he had plenty of minutes and opportunities on a top team already, 15 MPG for 164 games on the Bucks. So could be a case of no pressure mentally (losing is intended) or physically (opponents don´t care) rather than opportunity. But for the minimum, sign me up. Another is Isaac Bonga. Rookie season 3rd in DRPM at PG Sophomore season 2nd in DRPM at SF This season 45th in DRPM at SF 40% on corner threes (20/50 small sample size), but also a 92.1% FT shooter in Germany. Still only 21 years old. There is some 3&D potential. He can cover two positions (PG/SF), where we need a 3rd stringer. Kid grew up watching Dirk. Don´t Julius Randle again. Speaking of Germans. Since being acquired by the Cavs Isaiah Hartenstein has put up 10.5 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 2.8 APG in 22.5 MPG off the bench. Obviously only four games, but certainly somebody to monitor for the summer, given that the Cavs will pay Jarrett Allen. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Mavs2021 - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:52 AM)JamesConway Wrote: Conley can eat a stinky one. He had the opportunity to sign here but didn’t want to. No second chances. Cuban needs to grow a backbone. No crawling back to players that rejected/insulted us. Though Conley used us for leverage, I think he is still a character guy and he wanted to be loyal to the Grizzlies. Guys like VAJ + JJ redick, Deron Williams or Danny Green are far better examples. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - JamesConway - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:59 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Not true at all. Certainly the Mavs won't think that way. Jazz have very high salary rolls. 11 players making 134 million. Luxury tax is at 136 so I would think just filling out the roster with vet mins and/or rookies already gets you into luxury tax mode without Conley. I don't know what the appetite is for the Jazz to get into Warriors-esque Luxury tax levels. To me Conley is definitely a guy that could be available.Of course it’s true. He fed us the „he respects Carlisle so much he might actually sign with the Mavs“-crap via ESPN when he needed leverage before re-signing with MEM. He didn’t want to come when he had the chance in UFA. Screw him the same way Kemba can screw himself waiting for Ainge to dump his butt on a rebuilding team. Paying Brunson and extending his role is the way to go if we’re thinking about short guards. JB is the future. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - michaeltex - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:55 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Isn't the most obvious scenario CP3 just stays with Phoenix? He wanted to be there and the team is 2nd in the West. Why not just opt into 44 mil and give it another go? No reason not to stay in PHX, considering this year's success. I guess it depends on what he thinks he'll get as a FA in 2022 with another year of wear and tear. He's in a sweet spot right now. Team leader with a lot of kids to do the heavy lifting. Plus a pretty good big man in Ayton. He always seems to make the big guys better: Chandler, DAJ, and now Ayton. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Kammrath - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 09:04 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Isaac Bonga Definitely IN on Bonga. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - DanSchwartzgan - 04-06-2021 (04-06-2021, 08:42 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: If the current upward trajectory culminates with a decent play-off performance, they´ll use Powell+Burke (+WCS if necessary) + assets (players/picks) to acquire a player. You keep saying this like it somehow makes sense and will return something of value. Trying to be kind here, but that seems improbable. |