2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived (/showthread.php?tid=682) Pages:
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - IamDougieFresh - 04-03-2021 I know of a player who checks a lot of boxes for us, is worth a max contract, has a player option, and who's team will once again fail in the playoffs. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Branduil - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 01:44 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: I know of a player who checks a lot of boxes for us, is worth a max contract, has a player option, and who's team will once again fail in the playoffs.Jrue? I feel like the ship has sailed there. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - IamDougieFresh - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 02:01 AM)Branduil Wrote: Jrue? I feel like the ship has sailed there. His ship is sailing to Dallas RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Branduil - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 02:14 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: His ship is sailing to DallasIMO the only chance is if Milwaukee flames out in the first round. But if Jrue is as good as we think that won't happen. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - omahen - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 12:46 AM)F Gump Wrote: trading to essentially move an already-traded pick is something that might be new (don't recall ever seeing it), Milwaukee just did it in the Tucker trade, for example RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - F Gump - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 03:30 AM)omahen Wrote: Milwaukee just did it in the Tucker trade, for example Thanks for the info. I had not noticed that, but they sure did. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Hypermav - 04-03-2021 https://nypost.com/2021/04/03/julius-randle-rj-barrett-cant-carry-knicks-alone/ "Other than Toppin’s outburst and Porzingis’ so-so performance, the only other bright element was the notion Brunson will be a free agent in 2022. By then, his father might be on the Knicks bench with Thibodeau like he was in Chicago and Minnesota. Did someone say trade? Knicks president Leon Rose is Jalen Brunson’s former agent (his father was Rose’s first client). Brunson, who was a game-high plus-34 in 25 minutes, put up 15 points with five assists and seven rebounds, shooting 6-for-9. Brunson’s late fake-out of Immanuel Quickley for an easy layup showed his smarts more than his athleticism. The only time Thibodeau could smile after the game was talking about Brunson. “I am fond of Rick Brunson — his son is a terrific player and having a helluva year,’’ Thibodeau said. “I’m happy for him, watched him grow up. I remember him from the time he was coming to the Garden to watch Allan Houston and [Latrell] Sprewell play. He was 6 years old and mimicked their moves. He’s become a darn good player and become a great kid too.’’ On a terrible night, at least we can dream." You can have him for our picks back this summer. Maybe... RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - ClutchDirk - 04-03-2021 https://stathead.com/tiny/KK7bt RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-03-2021 Kemba is just too much of a liability on defense now + age, injury history. I am sure the Celtics will try to unload him for something. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - mvossman - 04-03-2021 (04-02-2021, 06:01 PM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: The way I see it, Markkanen is already better and a more valuable asset than JRich or THJ. Then you add in the fact that he’s much younger and and still has quite a bit of upside that I believe he would reach in our system. Getting getting into specifics, I’ll try my best to explain my reasoning but I’m really bad at this format so sorry in advance: I am of the opinion that in order to be a true contender we need to have a top 10 defense. If we are building around Luka and KP, that means at least one quality perimeter defender and most importantly a really good defensive 4. This is why I have generally been out on guys like Collins/Markkanen as I don't think either paired with KP makes a good enough defensive frontcourt to truly complete. To my mind, if there is something we really need offensively, its somebody to take some of the pressure off of Luka. Preferably a two way player than can play make and create a little for themselves. That is the missing piece to make this team a contender. Spending all of our assets/cap space on a player that does not meet this need is a misallocation of resources. As for JRich, he has been disappointing. I think some of it is luck (shooting) and some of it is due to the Covid mess. We have the rest of the season (and hopefully some playoffs) to get a more complete assessment. I'm anticipating that he will regress to his average as the year goes on, and he has already shown on occasion that he can bring a defensive intensity we will desperately need come playoff time. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Kammrath - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 09:17 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://stathead.com/tiny/KK7bt It's not even close. And I hate to do "I told you so" but I was telling this board that Kemba was a HORRIBLE idea for months. If the Mavs really thought he was a good plan and weren't just allowing his agent to use them for leverage (as my theory was), THEN the MBT has some serious issues IMO. Prioritizing Kemba was always a massive mistake if it was real. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - SleepingHero - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 12:59 PM)Kammrath Wrote: It's not even close. And I hate to do "I told you so" but I was telling this board that Kemba was a HORRIBLE idea for months. I mean Kemba is injured right now, you know that right? Last year, Kemba wiped the floor in almost every statistical category next to Brunson. I don't see why we have to tear another player down to prop another one up. Brunson is having a great year. Our clear cut 3rd best player. He won us that NYK game last night. We don't really need to compare him to an injured Kemba to say "Look how great Brunson is" But a healthy Kemba in his role would still probably be the better option today and that isn't a knock on Brunson. In 2 years that statement will likely not be true. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Kammrath - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 01:07 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I mean Kemba is injured right now, you know that right? I stated the summer of Kemba's free agency that he was going to be an injury liability for the rest of his career, over and over, and that he was going to decline rapidly once he hit 30 and 22,000+ mins for his career. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - Kammrath - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 01:07 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't see why we have to tear another player down to prop another one up. I am not tearing down Kemba, his own play and health has torn him down. I am just trying to put the truth in its context. Also, it was frustrating to be constantly berated as being an idiot for not wanting the Mavs to chase Kemba. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - SleepingHero - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 01:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I stated the summer of Kemba's free agency that he was going to be an injury liability for the rest of his career, over and over, and that he was going to decline rapidly once he hit 30 and 22,000+ mins for his career. That's a fair point. Small athletic guards usually hit a wall in their early thirties. I do remember vividly you saying that so kudos. Perhaps Kemba is an injury liability for the rest of his career, but there is a chance he isn't. And right now today Kemba is the better player uninjured. But that doesn't have to be a knock against Brunson because Kemba is an all-star in his 10th season. Maybe Brunson will get there eventually. But I will say if I have to choose a player today for the next 3 years my answer is Brunson. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-03-2021 I am not sold on J Rich. He just looks like JAG out there. Are we sure Mavs shouldn't start Brunson? I wonder ab a Luka/Brunson/DFS/Maxi/KP lineup. Also is Brunson our third core young piece that's been overlooked? I know he is seen as more of a scorer but at 25 mpg he still gets out 3 apg. CJ and Dame have been able to co-exist for many years. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - SleepingHero - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 01:56 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I am not sold on J Rich. He just looks like JAG out there. Are we sure Mavs shouldn't start Brunson? I wonder ab a Luka/Brunson/DFS/Maxi/KP lineup. I'm kinda getting there on JRich. At times he looks like JAG, but others he actually puts the ball down and makes a play. He isn't a prolific scorer, but he's shooting nearly 54% on 2 pointers. He had some great drives in that NYK game last night. Plus his defense is needed. I don't think he's playing himself into a big contract (which is fine by me), but I also don't think he's unvaluable. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-03-2021 There is actually a lot of symmetry between the Blazers and Mavs when you look at the two teams. Stotts has been there a long time, former Rick assistant. Roster:
Brunson is having an amazing year and making a case to be more involved. With more minutes he could at least be a 15/4 guy, maybe up to 18/4 or somewhere in between at pretty decent efficiency. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-03-2021 (04-03-2021, 02:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'm kinda getting there on JRich. At times he looks like JAG, but others he actually puts the ball down and makes a play. I want to see what he looks like in the playoffs but I think we can get a cheaper version of J Rich that is a bench guy and start Brunson. We also have Green who is being developed into a J Rich type role so I would hope he could get it together eventually. I am still all about John Collins from talent upgrade / asset management standpoint if you can get him without giving up Brunson. I don't think I would part with Brunson at this point, he is too valuable. I'd rather just bring back THJ as my 6th guy and try to improve the bench with a couple of pieces. RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace this summer - StepBackJay - 04-03-2021 For example how much of a drop-off from J Rich to an Avery Bradley type that can be had as a bench piece pretty cheaply to chase around opposing point guards? |