(03-31-2021, 11:14 AM)loki Wrote: He can certainly move his feet better than Powell. I don't see any issues in the fit with KP. My main concern is that his price tag is going through the roof.

(03-31-2021, 11:05 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm with this, only I don't think it's ONLY about DFS. 

Both DFS and Richardson have been disappointing this year offensively, and neither is shooting well. I keep expecting DFS to come out of the slump and every once in awhile I think he has. He hasn't been as bad as people make him out to be here, but he's definitely not shooting like prime Danny Green, Bowen, whoever (winning 3&D types). Richardson is a bit more versatile than DFS, but honestly I feel like he needs to shoot off the catch better, too. 

It's unrealistic to replace both in one season, imo, so if I'm the Mavs, I bet on one of those two to improve next year and replace the other. And, I'd wait until the end of the season to decide so I can make the best choice possible.

(03-31-2021, 11:54 AM)mvossman Wrote: but the difference is JRich is a better player across the board (except rebounding) and is more likely to find his 3 point shot (has a better history with less spacing).  There is a reason DFS is the guy other teams are leaving open.  

(03-31-2021, 12:16 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: To me Collins and Ball are longshots because of their RFA status. I expect NYK to throw the sink at Ball and I also expect ATL to match offers on Collins.

(03-31-2021, 12:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: See, you might be right about the above, but this is the part I'm not ready to call yet, personally. I would lean the other way, if anything. I'm not buying the idea that Richardson is a better defender than DFS, myself. Like @"Kammrath" said really well the other day, Richardson's game seems to be about creating a lot frenetic movement, which might appear to the eye as effective play, but in reality he seems to be out of position a LOT to me. Maybe I'm letting emotional bias creep into this, but my goal would be to keep an open mind until the end of the season. 

Another factor, imo, is size and length. They're all wings, but DFS is uncommonly long for guys as quick and nimble as he is, defensively. That's something that neither Richardson nor THJ can offer (though neither is exactly size challenged) and I think it gets taken for granted a lot around here.

(03-31-2021, 12:23 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Only thing I'll say about Ball going to NY is I believe he didn't like the media attention he got in LA, mostly due to his dad's mouth, which has calmed down a bit lately, but still NY will fry him worse than LA when he has a bad night. Wonder if he wants to willingly go there as it does seem there is a price NO won't match. The other thing, JRich might be a really good replacement for them at a much lower price tag. A double SnT of JRich for Ball is my proposal. That is a lower hit on the cap that might make a difference in OPJ negotiations (without running the numbers)!

(03-31-2021, 12:27 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think Richardson has a similar versatility as a defender, its just one position down.  He can guard 1-3 where DFS can guard 2-4.

(03-31-2021, 12:35 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, we're pretty much in lock step on this. Here are the questions I'd ask you to clarify where we might differ:

1) of the two defensive player types you describe above, which is more rare in the NBA?

2) Most of us agree that another ball-handling, playmaking, scoring threat is needed. In your opinion, is it easier to find one of those who's more similar to your Richardson description above, or your DFS description? My opinion is that there are maybe 5 guys in the NBA at DFS's size and agility level on defense who can be two-way players, not only through shooting off of the catch, but with face-up creation. Teams who have them aren't letting them go. To contrast, potential Richardson replacements seem to exist on every NBA team except for this one. 

Just my two cents on this. I do agree that DFS's shooting needs to improve soon or his size isn't going to matter much.

(03-30-2021, 04:18 PM)JamesConway Wrote: At some point we were shooting for all those guys. Barnes and Parsons actually got here.

(03-31-2021, 12:16 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I hate to break Kamm's heart but RH who will be the Christian Wood darling of this board, is not going to come to the Mavs.

(03-31-2021, 11:37 AM)Kammrath Wrote: And just as a reminder on RH, the Mavs were connected to sniffing around on him at the deadline. So there is reportedly interest there as a piece alongside KP.

(03-31-2021, 12:16 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I kinda like the idea of a Ball/OPJ offseason at the moment, with JRich being the casualty. I'd hope we get a SnT for JRich (maybe a double SnT to NO?), but if we come back with those two, I'm pretty happy with the results on paper. Ball seems to be on his way out, JRich could be a pretty good consolation prize, and we tip them a couple seconds.

(03-31-2021, 01:09 PM)michaeltex Wrote: I agree that there have been multiple years where the MBT hyped up getting some big name FA, only to flounder to the finish line with dregs.

(03-31-2021, 01:16 PM)omahen Wrote: At least this time around there are basically no big names to wait around   A couple of old guys and RFAs will get very overpaid, imho

(03-31-2021, 01:22 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Mavs will find a way to wait around for someone, probably Danny Green again.

(03-31-2021, 10:58 AM)omahen Wrote: OPJ could be probably had cheap.

(03-31-2021, 01:32 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Very curious about his upcoming market.  Feels like could be surprisingly low or surprisingly high but he's the name I keep coming back to with our MLE if we stay over the cap and keep everyone.