(03-30-2021, 05:04 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: We should riot if that happens.

(03-30-2021, 05:10 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Whenever I think about adding someone via free agency, I can't come to a way where we do that without dropping Hardaway and/or Richardson.  I know Collins comes up a lot but other than that name is there another target that would be worth losing one or both of those guys for?  I just feel like the capspace we have is somewhat misleading because it requires dropping Hardaway's cap hold.  Not saying we couldn't go find a big upgrade, just feels more likely that any upgrade would be done via trade.

(03-30-2021, 04:57 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I do agree with this.  Said so MANY times before the draft.  Trade #18 for a sure thing.  Donnie has a terrible history of drafting later on in the first round.

Not that I've given up on Josh Green.  I just think the % chance JG is a good rotation player <<<<<<<< the % chance the guy they could have gotten for the #18 pick would be a good rotation player.

(03-30-2021, 05:01 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: If we ended up keeping this squad together and added a rotation player with the MLE would that be considered a step forward for you?  I'm big on continuity and I also think this roster is much more competitive than the general public gives it credit for but curious about your take.  

I just think we should be biding our time until we have enough assets to pull off more of a blockbuster trade the way we did with KP as opposed to incremental movements that would lighten our war chest of trade assets.

(03-30-2021, 05:14 PM)loki Wrote: If you lose one you probably need to replace him with another guard. I would take Holiday, Lowry, and Conley over Richardson.

(03-30-2021, 05:14 PM)loki Wrote: If you lose one you probably need to replace him with another guard. I would take Holiday, Lowry, and Conley over Richardson.

(03-30-2021, 05:17 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Because Luka will have a new, big contract soon, and because the roster needs a good bit of work at the moment, I think this summer is really important.

(03-30-2021, 05:17 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Because Luka will have a new, big contract soon, and because the roster needs a good bit of work at the moment, I think this summer is really important.

(03-30-2021, 05:20 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Holiday would be a dream. Bucks gave up the farm for him and would not be outbid so the odds of him even being available are around 0%. Lowry I love too, you would have to do a massive overpay for him which Mavs won't do. Conley I like as an option just bc I think there's a good chance you can get him on like a 1 yr deal.

Mavs have 50 different directions they can go. Really the best thing they can do is sign guys that are worth more than their contracts. That and figuring out a way to dump Powell would be a victory.

(03-30-2021, 05:22 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: I for sure would lose Hardaway for Holiday and maybe Conley depending on the price but I'm concerned about Lowry falling off over the next couple years so I'm wary of spending a lot of money there.  I also think Holiday is going to stay for sure, that would be way too steep of a price for the Bucks to pay for a rental so I think he'll get whatever he wants there (he's also a fantastic fit there).  If Lowry considered us that would be interesting but the trade deadline makes me think we aren't on his radar.  Conley seems like the only potential get.

Along the secondary playmaker lines though, I'm VERY interested to see what the Pacers do with Brogdon this offseason and what kind of package they'd be looking at if they were to move him.

(03-30-2021, 04:49 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: The Heat and Raptors happen to be really good and developing young guys and incorporating them early.  They're the exceptions.

(03-30-2021, 05:37 PM)loki Wrote: As for Conley, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a 2-3 year deal.

(03-30-2021, 05:10 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Whenever I think about adding someone via free agency, I can't come to a way where we do that without dropping Hardaway and/or Richardson.  I know Collins comes up a lot but other than that name is there another target that would be worth losing one or both of those guys for?  I just feel like the capspace we have is somewhat misleading because it requires dropping Hardaway's cap hold.  Not saying we couldn't go find a big upgrade, just feels more likely that any upgrade would be done via trade.

(03-30-2021, 05:17 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: You could argue that you should just trade every first round pick for a future round pick and just gather them up cashing them in once every 5 years for a very good player. 

Do you like your odds better of hitting on 5 first round picks in 5 years or do you think you would do better trading them all for one player (presumably one you would have rights to for 3-5 years at least)? Your chance of hitting on a star or even upper tier starter are probably better with the pick gathering strategy.

(03-30-2021, 05:22 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: I think where I differ is that it has to happen this summer, I actually think it will be easier for us if we wait a year or two when we have FRPs to throw around again.

(03-30-2021, 06:03 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Conley and Lowry are just on two different tiers. Lowry even at his advanced age I think will get a big deal. Conley I just don't believe has the same market value or anywhere close. Given his age I would be shocked if he got 3 years. Two years maybe possible but I think he will sign a 1 yr deal.

(03-30-2021, 06:07 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Seeing as how Lowry would rather be on the Raptors or Heat that here I think you have to offer a max dollar two year deal to be in the conversation (something like 2/70).

(03-30-2021, 06:24 PM)loki Wrote: I suppose they could sour on him and turn back to Lowry, but they don't have room for both.

(03-30-2021, 06:15 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: And there that can gets kicked down the road already!

(03-30-2021, 05:44 PM)loki Wrote: I guess I'm willing to take the risk on Lowry because it's next to impossible to find guards that can shoot, defend, and create shots for their teammates. Dallas is currently paying THJ to do the first, Richardson the 2nd, and Brunson the 3rd. Unless their training staff finds a way to fuse those three into one human being, Lowry seems like the best way to open the window (short term) for championship contention.

Brogdon would be an amazing fit, but the Mavs will probably be outbid by half the league if he's made available.

(03-30-2021, 06:21 PM)loki Wrote: If Conley were Lowry's age I might agree. He's only 33 though and putting up almost 16/4/6 on 45/42/84. And from his perspective, I imagine he would prefer a long term deal unless someone really goes overboard for 1 year.