(03-30-2021, 01:28 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Welcome back!!!

Good thoughts. Do the reddit guys know who Roddy B is?

(03-30-2021, 01:41 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: FreeRoddyB

(03-30-2021, 01:24 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Hey guys, this is my first post here so I first just want to say how glad I am to find out this place existed.  I used to post every once and a while on the db.com boards under a different name, cdansby, but I kind of thought this all just died when Fisher moved sites without understanding that his entire audience were these boards.  Mavs Twitter and Reddit drives me crazy with how surface level and knee jerk some of the takes are, so seeing all these usernames again is quite the sight for sore eyes.

I got a million thoughts I'd like to get off my chest but I'll just stick with what's being discussed.

I get confused as to fans' frustration of the rookie's minutes this year as we are clearly in a little more of a win now mode compared to recent years and we also seem to be, you know, winning now when the roster is full strength and squeezing Green and the rest of the bunch out of the rotation.  I think we just caught a lot of bad luck this year with the G League not being what it normally is because I feel that all 4 kids would be getting most of their development there this year, so in that sense the player development has been disappointing but obviously not from any fault of the FO.  I also think it's weird to claim this team doesn't develop rookies when two of our starters were developed in house.

For the rookies themselves I think we have great upside in all 4 of them.  Personally, I think Bey may end up carving himself out a role sooner than the rest out of need (I'm also biased because I live in the Boulder area and saw a lot of him in college and was ecstatic when we landed him in the trade) but think that all showed promise in the bubble.  And although I was very high on the fit of Aaron Gordon as the 4 on this team, I'm glad Green wasn't moved because of the uncertainty around Hardaway's and Richardson's futures here at the moment.  At the very least we have someone we can thrust into those minutes and hope that he can step up if needed next season.  We also didn't really have the ammo to match Denver's offer anyway but that's a different point for a different thread.

I also think us sending out our second rounder shows that we like all 4 of those guys because we're basically saying we don't have roster space for that second rounder anyway because they plan on all 4 being guaranteed next year.

Anyways, these are random thoughts and not directly tied to other posts in this thread but just kind of excited that I'm here moving forward instead of listening to a bunch of reddit posters who have been Mavs fans for 2 and a half seasons screaming to fire Rick.

(03-30-2021, 01:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, so to me, last night was literally the first game in which Green saw the floor and actually helped. If he strings 3-4 of those together (when called upon) then I bet he starts to play more regularly. 

The funny thing, and the reason I'm becoming increasingly aware of how pointless these debates are is that if/when that happens, people will say "see, they should've been playing him all along" instead of "wow, that kid has come a long way. The coaches are doing a good job with him." The reality is that there probably are things the coaches and organization could be doing better, but none of those folks have the slightest clue what they are. How could we? The choices are to trust that the organization is trying to do what's best and working with a much deeper base of knowledge than we are, or to find a different source of entertainment. This third option of constantly complaining about everything, twisting the details of every situation into a club to use beating oneself and everyone else here into the mud is perplexing to me. I just don't see the allure of it.

(03-30-2021, 12:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I just have this crazy gut feeling about him. I think he's going to be good. I loooooove smart players. We don't know if he's a smart player yet, but we definitely know he's a smart person. I'm betting on that, personally.

(03-30-2021, 01:45 PM)Kammrath Wrote: LOVE the username.

Also, I have to take quite a bit of credit for "FreeRoddyB" and that whole movement. I was the one who started hyping him to Fish and Cuban...and then the movement exploded... just staying.  

(03-30-2021, 01:50 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Will never get over how injuries created such a what if scenario with Roddy but still super happy he carved out a great career overseas. 

(03-30-2021, 01:53 PM)Kammrath Wrote: It kind of looked ridiculous when injuries derailed everything, but I was hammering during his rookie year that he had superstar potential. I STILL think that other than Dirk and Luka in the last 20 years he had the highest-ceiling of any Mavs players to come through the door.

(03-30-2021, 01:45 PM)Kammrath Wrote: and Cuban

(03-30-2021, 01:23 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Also, would you describe Trey Burke as "low-mistake"? He's gotten 15 mpg in 44 games. 

Just saying, I didn't say the "low-mistake, high-energy" line, but seems to me that on many nights, the Mavs could have used a guy that is just like that! 

The biggest reason given for less rookie play is because RC wants to win and he trusts his vets to make less mistakes than the rookies. That is a lot of minutes between Burke and Johnson, two not-so-low-mistake guys IMO.

(03-30-2021, 01:45 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: they absolutely went on and on and on about how Doc Rivers hated playing young players with the Clippers. 

(03-30-2021, 01:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I really want to have that confidence in Terry. I just haven't seen a modicum of NBA talent in him yet. His G-league stretch did leave the door cracked open for me.

(03-30-2021, 01:53 PM)Kammrath Wrote: It kind of looked ridiculous when injuries derailed everything, but I was hammering during his rookie year that he had superstar potential. I STILL think that other than Dirk and Luka in the last 20 years he had the highest-ceiling of any Mavs players to come through the door.

(03-30-2021, 02:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Totally admit that he hasn't shown a thing yet at this level. My faith has been tested, for sure. Like I said though, I just have a feeling. I also once had a feeling that Antoine Wright was going to seize the Mavericks' swing position and go to the next level, so what the hell do I know?

(03-30-2021, 02:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Why do you think he's playing in Europe? Did the injuries sap him so much that he isn't worth an NBA contract, or does he just prefer it there, or what? I thought he was out of the game completely and was pretty surprised to learn that he's still playing professionally. Super weird arc, to me.

(03-30-2021, 02:09 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Yes, I agree that a constant beatdown of all the mistakes, miniscule or not, can be tiresome. I will say, it's much harder to make a case of where the team needs improvement if you don't have these conversations when evidence appears. 

Also, we could all just agree and say the Mavs have no flaws, but I suspect that would make your reasonable arguments the insane ones!

(03-30-2021, 02:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If I really believed there was no hope, I'd simply stop being a Mavs fan.

(03-30-2021, 02:24 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Time to let Roddy B rest in peace.