(03-30-2021, 10:40 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Not directed specifically at you, Kamm, but this topic is so bananas to me. I don't get the anger it brings out in people at all. 

If the Mavs are carrying rookies, it is logical to assume they're developing those rookies. Otherwise, they would not have them on the roster. They aren't intentionally depriving themselves of helpful, experienced vets without purpose. There's a reason and a plan. 

When Green comes in and plays 16 minutes of effective basketball, basically for the first time all season, some people say "SEE? WHY ISN'T HE DOING THAT EVERY GAME???!!!" My strong reaction is "See? That kid is learning PLENTY. He has definitely improved since last we saw him. The plan is working."

(03-30-2021, 11:58 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Nobody is learning sitting on the bench. Nobody is developed here. He has not improved either. What nonsense. How anyone can sit here and still claim rookies are developed is crazy.

(03-30-2021, 11:58 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: We just played a U22 Thunder roster, and he´s still too scared to play Terry over shitty Burke, or Bey over shitty Powell

(03-30-2021, 12:12 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I mean, for one thing, Terry isn't with the team right now. Did you know that? Also, I thought it was pretty clear from Bey's minutes in that game that he isn't better than Powell (yet).

I mean this as respectfully as possible, but someone who is THIS angry over a basketball team might want to rethink who they're labeling "crazy." I hope you can get over all of these complaints you have with the team you follow someday and enjoy the Mavericks again. It's fun to actually like the team, imo.

(03-30-2021, 12:18 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: I am starting to feel differently about Josh Green and his upside. His game has definitely improved since his g-league stench. The real question is, are we going to approach a point where we have to decide between Hinton and Terry?

(03-30-2021, 10:40 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Not directed specifically at you, Kamm, but this topic is so bananas to me. I don't get the anger it brings out in people at all. 

If the Mavs are carrying rookies, it is logical to assume they're developing those rookies. Otherwise, they would not have them on the roster. They aren't intentionally depriving themselves of helpful, experienced vets without purpose. There's a reason and a plan. 

When Green comes in and plays 16 minutes of effective basketball, basically for the first time all season, some people say "SEE? WHY ISN'T HE DOING THAT EVERY GAME???!!!" My strong reaction is "See? That kid is learning PLENTY. He has definitely improved since last we saw him. The plan is working."

(03-30-2021, 12:52 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: What does it take to get that guy some of James Johnson's 17 mpg in the 29 games he played (used JJ cause he's your favorite whipping boy).

(03-30-2021, 12:18 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: I agree I think Bey is going to be okay once he gets more reps. The game is not slow for him like it is for Green and Hinton right now. 

1. Josh Green 
2. Nate Hinton
3. Tyler Bey
3. Tyrell Terry 

Hinton's body movement and pace suggests he is NBA ready and can play. The real question is, are we going to approach a point where we have to decide between Hinton and Terry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuB_Gs7QHHE

(03-30-2021, 01:07 PM)omahen Wrote: He should grow two inches and gain some 30 pounds for starters  Green is SG and JJ is PF.

(03-30-2021, 12:52 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Honestly, RC himself said "low-mistake, high-energy". What does it take to get that guy some of James Johnson's 17 mpg in the 29 games he played (used JJ cause he's your favorite whipping boy).

(03-30-2021, 01:24 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Hey guys, this is my first post here so I first just want to say how glad I am to find out this place existed.  I used to post every once and a while on the db.com boards under a different name, cdansby, but I kind of thought this all just died when Fisher moved sites without understanding that his entire audience were these boards.  Mavs Twitter and Reddit drives me crazy with how surface level and knee jerk some of the takes are, so seeing all these usernames again is quite the sight for sore eyes.

I got a million thoughts I'd like to get off my chest but I'll just stick with what's being discussed.

I get confused as to fans' frustration of the rookie's minutes this year as we are clearly in a little more of a win now mode compared to recent years and we also seem to be, you know, winning now when the roster is full strength and squeezing Green and the rest of the bunch out of the rotation.  I think we just caught a lot of bad luck this year with the G League not being what it normally is because I feel that all 4 kids would be getting most of their development there this year, so in that sense the player development has been disappointing but obviously not from any fault of the FO.  I also think it's weird to claim this team doesn't develop rookies when two of our starters were developed in house.

For the rookies themselves I think we have great upside in all 4 of them.  Personally, I think Bey may end up carving himself out a role sooner than the rest out of need (I'm also biased because I live in the Boulder area and saw a lot of him in college and was ecstatic when we landed him in the trade) but think that all showed promise in the bubble.  And although I was very high on the fit of Aaron Gordon as the 4 on this team, I'm glad Green wasn't moved because of the uncertainty around Hardaway's and Richardson's futures here at the moment.  At the very least we have someone we can thrust into those minutes and hope that he can step up if needed next season.  We also didn't really have the ammo to match Denver's offer anyway but that's a different point for a different thread.

I also think us sending out our second rounder shows that we like all 4 of those guys because we're basically saying we don't have roster space for that second rounder anyway because they plan on all 4 being guaranteed next year.

Anyways, these are random thoughts and not directly tied to other posts in this thread but just kind of excited that I'm here moving forward instead of listening to a bunch of reddit posters who have been Mavs fans for 2 and a half seasons screaming to fire Rick.

(03-30-2021, 01:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: What I find ludicrous is this notion that if we aren't allowed to watch "development" on television then it must not be happening. This is literally these people's professions.

(03-30-2021, 12:39 AM)F Gump Wrote: Nico Melli.

Discuss.

(03-30-2021, 01:23 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Just saying, I didn't say the "low-mistake, high-energy" line, but seems to me that on many nights, the Mavs could have used a guy that is just like that! 

(03-30-2021, 01:24 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: I used to post every once and a while on the db.com boards under a different name, cdansby,