(03-29-2021, 02:28 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: This isn't how basketball works. Not every player has a "mulligan year."

(03-29-2021, 02:28 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: J Rich is more of an open question but not trending in the right direction. There is no guarantee he is going to pan out.

(03-29-2021, 02:36 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I don't believe in this BS that you are trying to find guys that can play with Luka/KP for 4 years. That's just not how the NBA works. 

(03-29-2021, 02:43 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Why would you say this when I said "There are guys like that in the NBA." The wording of "there are guys" is not in any way the wording used to describe "every player". 

That's why I said "I believe", there is no guarantee in this, it's just my belief, that I have previously presented as a theory of mine. A theory isn't proven, so guarantee shouldn't be in your wording either.

Once we get past these two issues, there's nothing you're responding to me about, so why quote me?

(03-29-2021, 02:42 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Luka already has the "core" group of guys that he has been playing with or "could" be playing with for a 3-5 year window: 
- KP under multi-year contract
- Powell, DFS, Maxi, Brunson all been with Luka since his rookie year
- THJ might be a mult-year guy if he is retained

So with that I think its fine to swap in some shorter term pieces. I even think its okay to shuffle everybody not named Luka if it makes your team better.

(03-29-2021, 02:46 PM)cow Wrote: You wouldn't view every player through the lens of that criteria (going back to my grocery list, guys like Howard/McGee and probably TJ wouldn't qualify).  But with the state of the Mavericks and the relative uncertainty about KP (health/fit/desire to be here), younger players would be the preference.  No one is guaranteed to fit, Holmes could be the next Delon but if he does work and because if his age, he has the opportunity to play here long term (4+ years).  That's something the likes of Lowry doesn't give you.

(03-29-2021, 02:47 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: It's fine, I just take issue that you can chalk up J Rich's poor year to a mulligan year. I mean it is or it isn't. Just like Delon Wright Mavs might feel like they have to move on. In my Mike Conley scenario I would be trying to get him on a 1 yr deal so that it's easy to move off of should he be washed up next season.

(03-29-2021, 02:49 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I am not against Holmes either. I like him but he might be one of those guys that gets a bigger contract than people expect and a starting job because some team thinks he's the next Christian Wood.

(03-29-2021, 02:47 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: It's fine, I just take issue that you can chalk up J Rich's poor year to a mulligan year. I mean it is or it isn't. Just like Delon Wright Mavs might feel like they have to move on. In my Mike Conley scenario I would be trying to get him on a 1 yr deal so that it's easy to move off of should he be washed up next season.

(03-29-2021, 03:08 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: A big difference btwn J Rich and the Delon Wright situation is that Rick is playing J Rich a lot of minutes and keeping him in the starting lineup. We knew Wright was in trouble bc he wasn't getting minutes or a regular rotation role from early on.

(03-29-2021, 03:32 PM)omahen Wrote: ??? Wright was playing a bit over 20 minutes per game. Very stable throughout the season. Very stable rotation role. Not getting minutes was not his problem...

(03-29-2021, 03:28 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: It's a theory of mine that I wouldn't mind seeing played out, but if we move on from him too, that's fine with me as well. He brings defense, houndingly so, regardless of what the stats say, and that, I believe is contagious like passing from Luka is on offense. I still like him as a player for our team and am hoping like wild that I am right if we keep him.

(03-29-2021, 08:17 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: The contenders won't have cap space for Conley.

(03-29-2021, 05:40 PM)DrMav Wrote: I know I’m behind and this conversation has probably moved on somewhat, but I seriously doubt Conley is taking a short term high dollar deal with a non-contender over a MLE or less sized offer (again assuming the Jazz don’t win it all and he enters the offseason with a ring) with a true contender. 

If a non-contender (like us or at least how we currently seem) wants him, it’s going to be high dollars for multiple years for him to even consider it, IMO.

(03-29-2021, 09:38 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I cannot see Conley getting less than 2/$40 or 3/$51.  (unless he decides to ring chase with the Lakers or Clippers)