(03-27-2021, 12:56 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: but I have to think that they would have gotten much more had they traded him at this TDL. 

(03-27-2021, 12:58 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Hawks are getting better and better and will make the playoff. Collins is their 2nd best player. I really hope that the Mavs don´t buy into some of the believes on this board.  The RFA pipe dreams are even worse than the Giannis hype last year.

(03-27-2021, 12:56 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I get the want to make the playoffs and make a really good showing this year. However, if they believed at the deadline that Maxi wasn't enough to help them do that, not sure why they would for next year's season. I guess it would depend on what else they can do in FA.

(03-27-2021, 01:05 PM)omahen Wrote: I assume Mavs will work his agent Schwartz and know beforehand the Atlanta situation.

(03-27-2021, 12:58 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Hawks are getting better and better and will make the playoff. Collins is their 2nd best player. I really hope that the Mavs don´t buy into some of the believes on this board.  The RFA pipe dreams are even worse than the Giannis hype last year.

(03-27-2021, 01:05 PM)omahen Wrote: Collins has the power to choose where to be - either Atlanta or a team of his choosing. Atlanta only has a choice of resigning him, letting him walk or SnT him to the team of HIS choosing. So everything goes down to their willingness to pay max to him. Obviously they didn't get a good enough offer at TDL and they prioritize making the playoffs. But what if they barely make it or even fail in the play in? Do they really want to pay Collins the max and pretty much lock themselves to a team that is not a serious contender? It might be a long shot, but I see a Brogdon scenario possibility. So a pick for them to save their face in front of fans for not matching the max contract to Collins. I assume Mavs will work his agent Schwartz and know beforehand the Atlanta situation.

(03-27-2021, 01:05 PM)omahen Wrote: Collins has the power to choose where to be - either Atlanta or a team of his choosing.

(03-27-2021, 01:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Possibly, there are a lot of hypotheticals in your hypothetical. I would love for it to come down to us getting him.

(03-27-2021, 01:51 PM)omahen Wrote: My hypothetical was written to show the principle how you can stay over the cap and still sign good FA. I said that a couple of times  

Collins is just one possibility, but the hypothetical works equally well with any other name in his place. If other name is UFA, it is even simpler. I trully hope Mavs will know the situation beforehand and not pursue some pipedream only to be matched by Atlanta (or other RFA scenario). SnT is the only thing that makes sense with UFA imho, giving an offer sheet would be crazy.

(03-27-2021, 01:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I have my hopes up a little for a Dieng signing today or tomorrow. He could help this team for the rest of the season, and he's flying WAAAAAY under the radar. I think he's better than what they're getting from the two-headed Powell/WCS monster at the moment. 

Drummond will either ring chase or go somewhere where he'll get his next big "stealing money" contract (NY). I'd put Porter Jr in that category, too. 

But Dieng might actually make sense, imo.

(03-27-2021, 02:26 PM)JamesConway Wrote: Good name, another Center but it’s an upgrade so why not. Dieng has been pretty darn solid for a long time.

(03-27-2021, 01:46 PM)cow Wrote: This is why I'm not sure he's worth chasing and that isn't even related to our front office woes around attracting free agents.  He wants out of Atlanta for some reason and I'd guess that he's no happy with his run on the ladder.  Why would he want to go from being a second option in Atlanta to a third option in Dallas?

(03-27-2021, 05:26 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: From his recent interview, he said he was insulted at 4 years/$90 million.  He said he didnt even ask for the max.  Just that 4/$90 was too little.  Otherwise, he has no issues with ATL.

(03-27-2021, 11:29 AM)omahen Wrote: I am not sure we understand each other. I am speaking about exactly the same thing as Boston and Charlotte did. Lets say JRich reaches agreement with Miami. He is unrestricted and can sign with them. Instead of signing him in cap space we ask them to SnT him and include themselves in our Atlanta deal. I am not convincing JRich to go somewhere he doesn't want to or even to wait without the offer, I am also not asking for salary back. I am just asking Miami for a little favour. This way JRich counts as our outgoing salary. But it goes in Miami cap space, no salary coming back. Finally, we are not getting Collins in our cap space, we are trading Powell (to New York) and JRich (to Miami) as our outgoing salary. Of course many other scenarios this can go. We are doing a SnT, we don't need cap space for that and it can be done on day one. No waiting required. There are certain agents involved I would be counting on. Schwartz for Collins and Duffy for Richardson, if I remember correctly. 

• 2021-22: $9,535,740 (equal to non-taxpayer mid-level exception)
  
  
• 2022-23: $10,012,527 (105% of first-year salary)
  
  
• 2023-24: $30,913,905 (110% of a 2021-22 max salary for a player with fewer than seven years experience)
  
  
• 2024-25: $32,305,031 (104.5% of third-year salary)
  
  
• Total: $82,767,203
  

(03-28-2021, 03:22 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: So the Mavs identified the main problem but couldn´t fix it. Tried to add another quality front court player (Nance). When it didn´t work they tried to get a solid rotation piece (Lyles) in the Redick trade. When the Spurs pulled out of the trade they ended up with Melli.

10/10 for intentions. WCS/Powell are the weak spot among rotation players.
1/10 for execution. Melii is probably even worse than both mentioned guys.

Would love to know why the Mavs did not try to add a guy like Dieng. Are they higher on Melli than the rest of the league (unlikely because he was a last minute salary match)? Is there another interesting buyout/waiver option? Are players not willing to even consider the Mavs as a free agent destination?