(03-26-2021, 12:33 AM)SamStetz Wrote: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1375316236226072578?s=20

(03-26-2021, 12:29 AM)Branduil Wrote: Something I thought of with this summer: let's suppose that KP has a good postseason, stays healthy, but wants out. Let's suppose that Golden State thinks Klay will be healthy, and they want to take one more shot. Let's suppose Minny gets the 4th/5th pick. And let's suppose Atlanta doesn't want to pay Collins, and they don't think their current team is good enough for its payroll. They could work out a 3-team trade something like:

GOLDEN STATE GETS:
-KP
-Bogdan

ATLANTA GETS:
-Wiseman
-Wiggins
-Powell
-Minny pick

DALLAS GETS:
-Collins
-Capela

Golden State gets one more chance, Atlanta adds high-quality young talent while saving some money, and the Mavs get a new frontcourt.

(03-26-2021, 02:06 AM)Aussiebballer Wrote: Mavs would be better off just taking Wiseman

(03-26-2021, 02:06 AM)Aussiebballer Wrote: Mavs would be better off just taking Wiseman and the Min pick instead of Collins.
The top 5 guys in the us draft look legit and Wiseman at worst will be a quality starter.

(03-25-2021, 10:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, the record-breaking offense really took a hit when Powell’s achilles snapped.

(03-26-2021, 03:34 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: What do you guys think about adding Rondae Hollis Jefferson? Currently a FA. Only 26 and is a high energy defensive forward.

(03-25-2021, 10:00 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: Yeah I believe THJ is the guy gone. I've gone back and forth on it. 
But I think THJ has more value and arguably the better player but clearly worse on defense. 

If they really planned on him being back I don't think he's off the bench instead of DFS or Kleber. He said he believes he's a starter multiple times and while his attitude his good I don't think he likes being off the bench. I just have never gotten the vibe that's his end game. But he's a team player and will do it for now. 

I also think THJ's market will be much higher than Richardson. I'd suspect JR will get a deal somewhere around his current deal to 15 mill. I think THJ is getting 20 mill. It's a brutal market this summer overall and the shooting is very weak. 

I'm completely good with bringing them both back at this point. But I really don't see it happening. It's been my vibe from the minute we trade for Richardson.

(03-26-2021, 03:10 AM)sefant Wrote: Luka - JRich - DFS - Kleber - KP
127.7 offensive rating
in 193 min


JRich is totally underrated around here and there are still a lot of people that want Curry back. People tend to only look at 3 pt shooting stats. But i believe JRich overall has career highs at midrange and the rim so far with the Mavs. And the Mavs defense got unquestionable better with Jrich than without.

(03-26-2021, 07:13 AM)Kammrath Wrote: A few things:

1) You make a GREAT point about the starting five. They continue to play amazing offense together and the best justification for the Mavs doing nothing at the TDL is their +12.5 net rating. Thanks for the reminder on that, we all need to be reminded of this data.

2) However your statement "the Mavs defense got unquestionable better with Jrich than without" is unequivocally false. The defense has been worse, MUCH worse with JR. The Mavs are 6.0 pts worse defensively this season in every minute he has played (1056 mins) versus when he has sat (965 mins). The offense has been better by 1.4 pts with JR, so if anything he has helped the offense.

3) The great starting lineup is playing better offense than anything the Mavs did last year, BUT they are also playing much worse defense, 5.8 pts worse in fact. So the net result of all the changes that happened this offseason have resulted in better offense and worse defense for what has become the starting core.

(03-26-2021, 07:13 AM)Kammrath Wrote: A few things:

1) You make a GREAT point about the starting five. They continue to play amazing offense together and the best justification for the Mavs doing nothing at the TDL is their +12.5 net rating. Thanks for the reminder on that, we all need to be reminded of this data.

2) However your statement "the Mavs defense got unquestionable better with Jrich than without" is unequivocally false. The defense has been worse, MUCH worse with JR. The Mavs are 6.0 pts worse defensively this season in every minute he has played (1056 mins) versus when he has sat (965 mins). The offense has been better by 1.4 pts with JR, so if anything he has helped the offense.

3) The great starting lineup is playing better offense than anything the Mavs did last year, BUT they are also playing much worse defense, 5.8 pts worse in fact. So the net result of all the changes that happened this offseason have resulted in better offense and worse defense for what has become the starting core.

(03-26-2021, 07:45 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: How about let THJ and JRich walk, and spend the money on Markkanen and Lonzo.   Build  the core of the team around Luka 22 years old, KP 25 years old, Markkanen 23 years old and Lonzo 23 years old.  Add in an affordable switchable defensive wing (Maxi and DoDo?), and that would be a gigantic lineup length wise.

(03-26-2021, 08:11 AM)haveitall Wrote: Lonzo needs the ball (pun intended) in his hands and would take touches away from Luka.  Markkanen is a poor man's KP.

(03-26-2021, 07:36 AM)F Gump Wrote: What do the comparative results for J-Rich, and for the team, look like if we exclude everything before they recovered from covid and were able to start playing together healthy? Both player vs team, and year (2019-20) over year (the last part of 1920-21)?

There have been a lot of weird factors that have altered numbers this season, if we use them all at face value and equal value. Lop off the first half or so, when it was really a disaster on so many levels, and the rotations were really patchwork, and use the stats from g 22 onward, and I wonder if maybe it tells a different story.

(03-26-2021, 07:08 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: But is probably not someone who is better than we already have.  And we need someone better than what we already have.

(03-26-2021, 07:36 AM)F Gump Wrote: (the last part of 1920-21)