(03-25-2021, 05:55 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Tim McMahon was on The Fan earlier and said the Mavs arent convinced about Porzingis long term but they absolutely couldn't trade him now.  HIs value around the league is low.  At least there's hope with KP.  You wouldnt get a star in return for him.  No chemistry between KP and Luka either.  Every time KP has a good game, he mentions how the ball actually moved around tonight.

Hawks will "bite the bullet" and match any offer sheet for Collins instead of letting an asset walk for nothing.  

The show hosts didnt ask him a follow up about any sign and trade possibilities for Collins.  

Gotta think that's what the Mavs are hoping for with all the Collins chatter.  My head hurts trying to figure out how we'd sequence/structure that sign and trade to try and maximize the most talent.

I'm just trying to figure out if it's going to be a fairly simple summer.  Sign JRich and THJ into cap space.  Have full MLE to spend.  Or if it's going to be a ton of moving pieces.

(03-25-2021, 06:01 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: KP isn’t written in pen in this teams future. Obvious issues with him and Luka. It never made any sense to invest any more in this team until all of that is officially cleared up. We’re stuck in a holding pattern. It’s just the facts of life. The signs have been there awhile now

(03-25-2021, 09:38 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I can be talked into the idea that one of them won’t be back. It seems like you assume that Richardson would be the choice to stay. I would be surprised if the Mavericks feel that way today… Maybe by the end of the season.

(03-25-2021, 09:54 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: No chemistry means basketball wise, not that KP and Luka hate each other.

(03-25-2021, 10:11 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I mean unpopular opinion alert... But Luka is a ball hog at times and can tend to over dribble trying to do everything himself. I think it's Luka still learning and improving and not some Westbrook level problem. On top of that Luka and Brunson are the only guys who can actually penetrate the defense and actually break it down a bit. So by nature of our roster issues, Luka is forced to do it all and the ball will stop moving.

We are a jump shooting team big time. And the only scoring opportunities we create as a team is open shots. Some of the shooters namely THJ will blow by the closeouts when they happen and get in the lane. But he's not doing that himself in a normal possession. 

So basically KP is primarily  a post up and spot up shooter. He's not a great roll man. We don't have one. and we are lacking penetrating guards. 

I think when we address that, chemistry will really start to come as the ball will move much better when the defense is getting broken down by consistent penetration. I think at that point KP is going to be getting 20-25 every single night because he's going to be getting much easier shots.

TLDR I think the roster issues are the reason the basketball chemistry is off.

(03-25-2021, 10:11 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: TLDR I think the roster issues are the reason the basketball chemistry is off.

(03-25-2021, 10:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, the record-breaking offense really took a hit when Powell’s achilles snapped.

(03-25-2021, 10:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, the record-breaking offense really took a hit when Powell’s achilles snapped.

(03-25-2021, 10:32 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: And when DoDo's 3 point shot stopped falling combined with the dropoff from Curry to JRich.     When you can't make teams pay for throwing bodies at Luka, things get clogged up quick.

(03-25-2021, 10:11 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: He's not a great roll man. We don't have one.

(03-25-2021, 10:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: This is the biggest on-court culprit offensively.

Luka desperately needs a roll man....

(03-25-2021, 10:58 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: I think what the Hawks do with Collins depends a lot on the playoffs.  As has been pointed out, they're already getting up on the cap and they still got to max out Trae.  If they lock in Collins at Max, that's a wrap.  That's your team, for better or worse.   If they make it a few rounds into the playoffs, you can talk yourself into the idea that it's a young team that has upside yet to reach with continuity.  If they struggle down the stretch and get steam rolled in the first round and look a billion miles away from actually contending, they can't lock that in as a franchise foundation for the next 4 years.

(03-25-2021, 10:57 PM)cow Wrote: What's a max contract offer to JC look like?

(03-25-2021, 10:57 PM)cow Wrote: What's a max contract offer to JC look like?  I asked before so apologies if someone answered, but if he gets popped again can you protect yourself using contract language?

(03-25-2021, 11:21 PM)F Gump Wrote: Collins' max starting salary will be $28.1M. That's the cap room you would have to have, or the salary amount you would have to match in a trade, to give him a max deal.

The limit for the Mavs (or another team trying to get him from ATL, limited to 4 yrs and 5% raises), comes out to $120.8M over 4 years.
The limit for ATL (limited to 5 yrs and 8% raises), comes out to $163M over 5 years.