(03-25-2021, 03:37 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: No free roster spots. According to the latest tweets the Mavs want to keep Melli.

(03-25-2021, 03:35 PM)Mapka Wrote: This are all valid points, but...

 - FA was done the moment GA signed the new contract. The two players I like best in the FA:
 THjr & Josh Richardson lol .. (not talking RFAs/Kawhi).
 
- Don´t care about the "value" of our Rookies, as I would love to keep all of them.

There will be one option to "improve" and that´s called full midlevel exception.

let´s go for the buyouts now

(03-24-2021, 10:47 PM)F Gump Wrote: It will be interesting to see what players like Fournier and Dinwiddie yield, if they are traded. Gordon too.

I'm thinking the prices will prove to be much higher than we think (if they are traded) and that the supposed giveaways that are being wished for don't even exist.

For those reasons, I think the Mavs are not going to find anything that makes sense, and will sit this one out. Not for lack of trying, but for an unwillingness to pay something stupid on a deal that doesn't get them anywhere..

(03-25-2021, 08:12 AM)omahen Wrote: I think if Mavs limit is Johnson and a couple of second rounders, than our market are the likes of Bjelica, Gay, Dieng or overpaid players like Bledsoe.

(03-25-2021, 03:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: This ^ is spot on.

Once you include new deals for J-Rich and THJ, the Mavs have no cap room this summer and then they have the big MLE to spend (about 9.5M). Keeping those 2 players, at similar prices to what they are getting now, puts the Mavs right around the cap. That assumes they exercise their cheap option on WCS, which seems like a safe bet.

If either gets a wild offer, the Mavs have about the same cap room they would have spent to spend on some outside player in free agency. (But they end up with the cap room MLE instead.)

It's likely to be an MLE summer, where they look to land a well-valued bargain deal or two, lock them up for 2-3 years, and call it a day.

(03-25-2021, 03:53 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I can see JRich and THJ finding deals elsewhere while we sit there waiting to see if ATL matches an offer sheet on Collins.

(03-25-2021, 03:52 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Thing is that they could have added a player for Johnson´s contract in a trade and still kept both JRich and THJ. Depending on the exact numbers even with the possibility to use the full MLE.
Makes no sense not to do in a no free agency scenario.

(03-25-2021, 03:53 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I can see JRich and THJ finding deals elsewhere while we sit there waiting to see if ATL matches an offer sheet on Collins.

(03-25-2021, 03:52 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Thing is that they could have added a player a player for Johnson´s contract in a trade and still kept both JRich and THJ. Depending on the exact numbers even with the possibility to use the full MLE.

Makes no sense not to do in a no free agency scenario.

(03-25-2021, 04:08 PM)F Gump Wrote: That's true, except (will circle back to this in a minute).

But I do wonder if they were involved on Fournier and just got outbid. Anyone else (worth keeping) where it looks like Johnson and 2nds might have been enough?

As for the circle back --
1 They can sign Redick if that is desirable. Melli too. So there's that.
2 I bet there's a side issue (that may actually be a big one for them) on the spending this summer that we don't see. That's the issue of the 2022 payroll, when Luka's massive raise will hit. They already know that's coming. It;s a huge hit. I think that they will be factoring that into the equation, and it might have made it impossible for them to re-sign J-Rich, THJ, and also Fournier (or someone else) at expected market prices on multi-year deals. So maybe in their estimation, Fournier could have only been a rental anyhow, because his price tag is going to be too high, which lessened his value considerably. 
3 Redick, fwiw, seems like he could be much more available to sign a one year deal in the summer, and for a much smaller number.

(03-25-2021, 04:08 PM)F Gump Wrote: 2 I bet there's a side issue (that may actually be a big one for them) on the spending this summer that we don't see. That's the issue of the 2022 payroll, when Luka's massive raise will hit. They already know that's coming. It;s a huge hit. I think that they will be factoring that into the equation, and it might have made it impossible for them to re-sign J-Rich, THJ, and also Fournier (or someone else) at expected market prices on multi-year deals. So maybe in their estimation, Fournier could have only been a rental anyhow, because his price tag is going to be too high, which lessened his value considerably. 

(03-25-2021, 03:17 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Updated salary chart:

(03-25-2021, 04:12 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I bet there's a side issue (that may actually be a big one for them) on the spending this summer that we don't see. That's the issue of the 2022 payroll, when Luka's massive raise will hit. They already know that's coming. It;s a huge hit. I think that they will be factoring that into the equation, and it might have made it impossible for them to re-sign J-Rich, THJ, and also Fournier (or someone else) at expected market prices on multi-year deals. So maybe in their estimation, Fournier could have only been a rental anyhow, because his price tag is going to be too high, which lessened his value considerably. 

(03-25-2021, 04:14 PM)michaeltex Wrote: A - Can you pin this somewhere we can find it later for reference? Maybe somewhere on the main page?

B - If JRich opts out, does he become an RFA or UFA?

C - Can the Mavs unilaterally turn Brunson's deal into a guaranteed contract? If they do, does it give them Bird rights going into year 3?

(03-25-2021, 04:28 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Maybe the answer is more nuanced. Maybe he doesn't want to pay the LT, yet, because of the fact that a championship team will be expensive to keep with the escalation factors. And we all expect Luka (and others) to be around for a long time.


Dirk gave lots of hometown discounts. Basically taking whatever was left after MBT put the team together, which made cap management easier that Donnie and Mark deserved. I don't expect that from Luka, at least not for a while.

(03-25-2021, 04:46 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I wonder how the Mavs will operate this summer.

Do they just lock up THJ and JRich and spend the MLE?

or do they explore some other options with the $37 million?

(03-25-2021, 04:14 PM)michaeltex Wrote: B - If JRich opts out, does he become an RFA or UFA?

C - Can the Mavs unilaterally turn Brunson's deal into a guaranteed contract? If they do, does it give them Bird rights going into year 3?

(03-25-2021, 05:55 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Tim McMahon was on The Fan earlier and said the Mavs arent convinced about Porzingis long term but they absolutely couldn't trade him now.  HIs value around the league is low.  At least there's hope with KP.  You wouldnt get a star in return for him.  No chemistry between KP and Luka either.  Every time KP has a good game, he mentions how the ball actually moved around tonight.

Hawks will "bite the bullet" and match any offer sheet for Collins instead of letting an asset walk for nothing.  

The show hosts didnt ask him a follow up about any sign and trade possibilities for Collins.  

Gotta think that's what the Mavs are hoping for with all the Collins chatter.  My head hurts trying to figure out how we'd sequence/structure that sign and trade to try and maximize the most talent.

(03-25-2021, 04:38 PM)Kammrath Wrote: First post of this thread contains this updated chart.