(03-15-2021, 01:07 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: The trade I saw was Powell and a second for JJ Reddick. Not sure where the big comes into play.

(03-15-2021, 01:18 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Man if we could get Fournier and AG that would be huge.

Couple options:
- THJ, DFS, Powell (additional 2s and/or rooks?) for Fournier, AG
- THJ, DFS, JJ (additional 2s and/or rooks?) for Fournier, AG
- THJ, DFS, Powell, JJ (additional 2s and/or rooks?) for Fournier, AG, Aminu

The last idea would bring Aminu back as an incoming contract dump. His contract isn't that bad but he's always injured.

Mavs offseason would be essentially resigning Fournier and probably J Rich + smaller moves to shore up backup big minutes.

(03-15-2021, 02:05 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Magic cant't be that dumb, can they?

(03-15-2021, 02:05 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Magic cant't be that dumb, can they?

(03-15-2021, 01:33 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I think if the Magic decide to trade Gordon and Fournier they are also going to trade Vuc. Full rebuild around Isaac, Fultz and other young guys. Meaning that they would probably prefer picks and prospects over win now pieces.
They could obviously try to redirect DFS in a 2nd trade and get even more value (OKC model) but that´s not an option with expiring contracts (Johnson, THJ).

(03-15-2021, 02:19 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: I dont think people understand how bad/mediocre Aaron Gordon has been for his salary.

(03-15-2021, 02:19 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: I dont think people understand how bad/mediocre Aaron Gordon has been for his salary.

(03-15-2021, 02:28 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I also remember that the Magic rejected the RoCo offer in the offseason. Not sure if the Mavs should trade for Gordon but I do know that the Magic want a king´s ransom.

(03-15-2021, 02:37 PM)F Gump Wrote: So maybe there's a framework of a deal that STARTS like this:

Gordon - Aminu
Powell - Johnson

(03-15-2021, 02:28 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I do. Not really a fan. Even his defense hasn´t been as good as some posters think. He is a really good on ball defender against bigger wings like Luka but not a great help/team defender. Below average shooter, average rebounder. I think it is more about him in a different role and system. His rim running and pick and roll finishing numbers are elite but he is rarely used as the focal point of the pick and roll attack.

(03-15-2021, 02:30 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Maybe they rejected RoCo bc it was a lateral move and didn't get them any younger. We at least have a couple of young pieces we could throw in.

(03-15-2021, 02:47 PM)omahen Wrote: I think that is good thinking. Problem I see, Powell would be totally redundant in Orlando at center behind Vuch, Birch and Bamba. Unless you try to play him at PF. Exchanging Aminu for Powell also doesn't bring cap relief. How about this?:

Johnson+WCS+Green+draft compensation for Gordon+Aminu

Quote:Some clarity about Bamba’s situation finally materialized Tuesday night after the Magic lost to the Toronto Raptors. Coach Steve Clifford inserted Bamba into the game for the first time with 2:37 remaining in the fourth quarter, with the Magic trailing 120-102.
When Clifford was asked by The Athletic what Bamba needs to do to earn more minutes, Clifford provided a clear-cut answer that should clear up any confusion. Clifford said: “As I explained to him, the reality is this: Our best position by far is the five spot. By far. Vooch is playing at an All-Star level. Khem Birch is not just good now; Khem Birch is having a terrific year. So a lot of it is that. (Bamba) is playing behind two guys who (are excelling). Every night, it’s not even close — our best position is the five.”
In other words, Nikola Vucevic and Birch simply are better players right now than Bamba is.

In other words, Nikola Vucevic and Birch simply are better players right now than Bamba is.

That should not be taken as a slight toward Bamba. There’s no shame in sitting on the depth chart behind two players who are having career seasons. Vucevic has emerged as a bona fide contender for an All-Star spot. He’s averaging 22.5 points, 11.2 rebounds and 3.5 assists while also making 43 percent of his 3-pointers. Birch’s offensive-rebounding rate is nearly elite, and he has added a decent mid-range shot to his game, and he also plays with high energy.

“I think Khem, in his role, is one of the best backups in the NBA,” Vucevic said a few weeks ago in response to a question about Birch. “He understands his role. He sticks to it. He never steps out of it. He’s a great roller, great rebounder, great defender. Whatever is asked of him to do, he does it. So it’s very easy for everybody to play with him on the second unit with him out there.”


Vucevic’s comment is instructive because it hints at how other Magic players regard Birch. They love to play alongside Birch in part because he does the team’s dirty work. He scraps for rebounds. He sets bone-crunching screens. And he defends with a motor that never stops. But the players’ respect for Birch goes further than that. They view Birch as someone who has paid his dues and earned his playing time. After going undrafted in 2014 and playing several seasons overseas, Birch has carved out his minutes through hard work and toughness.

(03-15-2021, 02:47 PM)omahen Wrote: I think that is good thinking. Problem I see, Powell would be totally redundant in Orlando at center behind Vuch, Birch and Bamba. Unless you try to play him at PF. Exchanging Aminu for Powell also doesn't bring cap relief. How about this?:

Johnson+WCS+Green+draft compensation for Gordon+Aminu

(03-15-2021, 02:37 PM)F Gump Wrote: One possibility to consider ...

Aminu has been incredibly bad offensively the entire time in ORL. So bad it makes him close to unplayable. And he's getting 10M this year and next.

It would probably be a lot of value for the Magic for a team to take him off their hands. And perhaps the Mavs wouldn't be afraid of taking him, since he was here before. (But, again, his offense is AWFUL. Beyond awful.)