(12-16-2020, 02:47 PM)omahen Wrote: I was reffering to the part where you said resigning Johnson is kind of a win.

(12-16-2020, 01:57 PM)omahen Wrote: The way I see it. Mavs have two great expiring contracts, able to match basically any kind of salary. Mavs have a very deep team of solid role players, which means we can easily "sacrifice" a couple. Playoff rotation is limited to some 8 guys anyway. 

(12-16-2020, 01:25 PM)bearforce1 Wrote: My first post here 

(12-15-2020, 06:07 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Love the OPJ idea, but not if it's to play the 3. 

Loads of people will disagree, but to me, that guy is a 4. I would straight up rather just bet on DFS to take another step if we're thinking of OPJ as a 3. 

Now, I have altered my thinking today, in part because of how Richardson has looked, and in part because of the prize coming off the board. I said during the off-season that I wouldn't be in favor of THJ for OPJ under any circumstances. With Richardson here, and my willingness to bet on DFS moving forward, I would now be in favor of consolidating THJ/Powell into OPJ. 

I like Luka/Richardson/DFS/OPJ/KP a lot, and there are others I'd look into for that spot, too. 

I'm ok if the move ends up being THJ/DFS for a 3, too (I think Kleber can be a long term starter here at the 4), but I don't think OPJ is that guy. Just my opinion.

(12-15-2020, 07:51 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If that's true, then maybe my assessment of him so far has been incorrect. It's very possible. 

So let me reiterate this part: if he's a 3, then I'd rather just keep DFS, who is on a great contract and can give you similar contributions (3&D only) at that position, and who you already know fits in.

(12-15-2020, 08:24 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Would you trade OPJ for THJ + DFS?

(12-15-2020, 08:24 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Would you trade OPJ for THJ + DFS?

(12-16-2020, 05:37 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: The Gallo pursuit was also an interesting one. He would have to have been a starter here right? No way you would start Powell over Gallo at PF? The nice thing ab Gallo is that he's also a good KP backup. Oh well.

(12-16-2020, 09:03 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: Is it just me or is Klieber an ideal Big to play next to KP?
He can guard any big or wing, maybe some exceptions.
Shoots, rebounds, gets blocks, team player.

Have we figured out why they seem reluctant to start Klieber?

(12-16-2020, 03:26 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: What would the true cost be for Aaron Gordon at the TDL? Gordon is only 25 and never been the 4th or 5th option on a team. He is a absolute freak athletically and I could really see him thriving with Luka. If we had Luka, JRich, THJ, AG and KP as our starting lineup, I would like our chances against anyone. Is that possible without giving up those guys or Maxi? I know there's some bigger moves out there, but they would cost a lot more.

(12-16-2020, 10:23 PM)Dundalis Wrote:

(12-16-2020, 03:26 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: What would the true cost be for Aaron Gordon at the TDL? Gordon is only 25 and never been the 4th or 5th option on a team. He is a absolute freak athletically and I could really see him thriving with Luka. If we had Luka, JRich, THJ, AG and KP as our starting lineup, I would like our chances against anyone. Is that possible without giving up those guys or Maxi? I know there's some bigger moves out there, but they would cost a lot more.

No chance. THJ's expiring contract would be a minimum (I don't want THJ here, his value is far too reliant on 3pt shooting and his trade value as an expiring contract after a career shooting year is the highest it will ever be). I would expect that, plus one of Maxi/DFS, one of our rookies and a future pick or two. Maybe we could get him a bit cheaper if the Magic feel like Isaac is the answer and not Gordon longer term. I'd still do it though because I love his upside and profile on this team as the 4.

(12-16-2020, 07:28 PM)Playmaker Wrote: OPJ is not a locker room fit. There was a thread on the RealGM Bulls message board with both Bulls and Wizards fans stating that OPJ doesn't like basketball just the money it brings him. He's known to party harder than work on his game or care about basketball. He recently even posted a video on his twitter of him throwing a house party during the pandemic.

I don't think anyone wants that type of influence on this young team. Stop with all the trades to the Mavs. He's way overpaid and not worth what he brings with him off the court.

(12-16-2020, 11:19 PM)Drew Wrote: THJ should be used to upgrade. Not to take a chance on a player who might not even be better.

(12-16-2020, 10:57 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: The way I see it, I would prefer it if we aren't aggressive in the trade market:

-We have a good enough roster to be a top 4 teams in the West IMHO, we need some organic development and improvements. But we have many good starting caliber players, and deep benches with 1 super star and another star (when healthy).

-There aren't many superstars available right now. Beal isn't going to be traded unless he and Russ looks awful together, they traded Wall with the idea of win now. Harden is probably the only superstar available, and he isn't really that available for a team like the Mavs.

-The trade market is currently inflated:
Jrue cost 3 first round picks, 2 pick swap when he has one year left. Worh mentioning he has made 1 All-Star appearance in weak East 7 years ago, not a single All-NBA appearance.
Covington cost 2 1st, and he has only 1 defensive team of the year appearance in his whole career.
Teams will want at least that type of compensation for there trading assets, they know that teams now are desperate considering how many contenders.
OPJ, Lavine, Gordon etc will cost arm and leg most likely.

-Other teams still have assets: Heat have those young guys they showed in playoffs, Denver has ton of assets too. Teams will want to take advantage of them even as leverage.

Mavs simply has depleted assets: We have no young, high potential player (except KP & Luka), we have traded our 1st till 2023 with protection till 2025. With 7 years rule I think we might not be able to trade more than 1 first round pick. And tbh we have Luka locked till 2025 so I won't trade a 2027 or so pick right now.

For all of that, I think we are better served in playing with teams we have, reloading our asset after paying our draft debt to the Knicks, maybe even trying to work a deal with them after 2021 draft to give them 2022 rather than 2023 and remove protection.
That doesn't mean don't test the market, there will be some good deal available sooner or later. But I am done trying to get a smaller upgrade tbh.
The team biggest need is another star, and not another starter.

(12-16-2020, 06:07 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote: Today.  Now.

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Today.  Now.

(12-16-2020, 11:23 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Maybe falling into the best locker room in the league would change things for him. He looked good in the Bulls game tonight.

(12-16-2020, 11:23 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Not letting go of Kleber for AG for sure, and I say that as someone who has advocated for getting Gordon for a while.

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Maybe falling into the best locker room in the league would change things for him. He looked good in the Bulls game tonight.

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Which targets fit into which category?