(03-10-2021, 09:40 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: The Warriors are hot for a trade to take advantage of Curry's MVP-type season.

I know this won't make people happy but would Warriors give up that Minney pick if they wind up with Dipo and KP while dumping Wiggins?

Trade would be something like:
https://tradenba.com/trades/3XEz93_gM

Warriors are able to run with Dipo, Curry, Draymond, KP. Rockets would take on Wiggins but get that Minney pick. Mavericks would get Wiseman, Oubre and Tucker. Mavs would still be in play to make another move elsewhere if they wanted to.

(03-10-2021, 09:41 AM)omahen Wrote: You would really need to be low on KP to do this trade, imho

(03-10-2021, 09:41 AM)omahen Wrote: I think it is very simple. Either you believe in him and pay the assets or you don't.

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(03-10-2021, 09:59 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Yuck. I'd rather just keep KP. Warriors come out ahead by a mile there. Basically get 2 high quality players while simultaneously getting off one of the worst contracts in the NBA and it only costs them a single pick and a project. Just lol.

(03-10-2021, 10:41 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Wiseman was the 2nd pick in the draft. Calling him a project is not accurate. Giving a "pick" is giving up the Minnesota pick which should be a top 5 pick. Dipo is expiring. That pick and Wiseman are two very valuable assets.

(03-10-2021, 10:46 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Warriors improve their chances to win now. Add Porzingis and two vets that are great fits in their scheme. Johnson is a playmaking big that can play a Draymond "light" role. Redick can play a Curry/Klay "light" role and run around screens or spot up for catch and shoot 3s.

Pelicans move on from Lonzo and Hart. They use the combined value of their expirings to add a high lottery pick and some future 2nds. They can easily create max capspace to add another star player or trade for a player like Beal. Also get a 1st round 3&D wing that could be a cheap replacement for Hart.

Mavs have to absorb Wiggins contract. They add the starting PG and C of the future. Hart is a nice throw in that could potentially replace THJ and/or Richardson in the summer if the Mavs decide not to pay them.

(03-09-2021, 07:34 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I don't see why New Orleans would trade Ingram. I think Ingram plus Zion makes a lot more sense than Zion and Wiseman.

(03-10-2021, 11:14 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote:  Zion and Ingram are a horrible fit together.  Both offensive  minded wings who are best with the ball running through them and have huge similar holes on defense.   And a big like Wiseman projects to be who can rim run and shoot while also pretecting the rim is the ideal fit with Zion.    I have absolutely no clue what their front office was thinking when they brought in Steven Adams.    They have an unstoppable  generational talent at getting to the rim, and they brought in the biggest overpaid big stiff 5 in the league to clog up the paint for him.

(03-10-2021, 11:01 AM)Kammrath Wrote: That is a hell of a win-win-win fantasy trade assuming that the Pels are willing to take a step back for the hope of drafting well.

Well done. Well done.

(03-10-2021, 10:46 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: It´s not going to happen but in a Mavs-Warriors trade the Mavs should look for a 3rd team that would be willing to give up something for the Minny pick.

Time to start the trade machine:


https://tradenba.com/trades/Sku83brT3


Warriors improve their chances to win now. Add Porzingis and two vets that are great fits in their scheme. Johnson is a playmaking big that can play a Draymond "light" role. Redick can play a Curry/Klay "light" role and run around screens or spot up for catch and shoot 3s.

Pelicans move on from Lonzo and Hart. They use the combined value of their expirings to add a high lottery pick and some future 2nds. They can easily create max capspace to add another star player or trade for a player like Beal. Also get a 1st round 3&D wing that could be a cheap replacement for Hart.

Mavs have to absorb Wiggins contract. They add the starting PG and C of the future. Hart is a nice throw in that could potentially replace THJ and/or Richardson in the summer if the Mavs decide not to pay them.

(03-10-2021, 10:41 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Wiseman was the 2nd pick in the draft. Calling him a project is not accurate. Giving a "pick" is giving up the Minnesota pick which should be a top 5 pick. Dipo is expiring. That pick and Wiseman are two very valuable assets.

(03-10-2021, 11:24 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I see what you're saying, but also look at the team Wiseman is on.

He's barely getting 20 minutes a night under Kerr. With several DNP-CD's mixed in. C is the Warriors weakest position and it has always been that. This is the thinnest roster they've had in maybe 9 years. IF Wiseman was good enough, you don't think Kerr would be playing him 36 mpg? 

He isn't. He's raw. He has a boatload of talent that's undeniable. But he's wild on defense (and this with Draymond coaching him nearly every possession), has no go-to offensive repertoire, and makes poor choices. He's also a rookie that basically made a high school to NBA jump so it's understandable he's like this. I'm trying to see Wiseman for what he is today, rather than what he CAN be. He is a highly talented project that has a high chance of panning out in the next 3-5 years. 

But the Mavs are trying to win right now. Today. Every year we have Luka is a year where we can potentially contend. That's the luxury of having an All-NBA MVP candidate averaging 30/10/10 on your team gives you. KP has his warts.  But he at least allows the Mavs to be competitive right now. Waiting around for Wiseman does not.

(03-10-2021, 11:24 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: [quote pid="67402" dateline="1615393260"]

Sign me up for Ingram for KP then. Maybe give me Adams too.

(03-02-2021, 10:36 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think you are under rating FVV defense.  He at least near elite.  Due to his strength and anticipation he can guard 2s and even 3s.  He is a better perimeter defender than anything we have (including JRich).

(03-10-2021, 11:32 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: They can get better for Ingram than KP.  And please God, no Adams.   Most overrated player by fans in the league.   He's Mason Plumlee with cooler haircut and tats.

(03-10-2021, 11:24 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: [quote pid="67402" dateline="1615393260"]

Sign me up for Ingram for KP then. Maybe give me Adams too.