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RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | WAS among teams monitoring KP situation - SleepingHero - 02-27-2021
(02-26-2021, 10:17 PM)cow Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1365454513897930752?s=20
At what point, if ever, has Marc J Spears known anything internal about what the Mavs are doing?
It's basically Townsend/Stein and no one else that accurately reports the Mavs thoughts. Cato sometimes has good guesses. Fish is a big rumor mill. But Spears? This national guy that has zero connections to the inner circle of the Mavs is now breaking this? Gimmie a break.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - SleepingHero - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 12:02 AM)cow Wrote: I'm not sure why you'd do that? Dragic is great and all but he's not going to move the needle on the season and Brunson is the better long term play for the team.
Sometimes trading for the voice of the guy in the locker room has a bigger impact than the guy on the court. Disregarding the amazing fit (and proven success) of a Dragic/Doncic back court. And how Dragic is averaging a very solid 14/3/5 on 44/36/80.
The dude is a great leader born from the Steve Nash PG basketball school. I mean look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG4Khmu6Uho
We need this fire. This passion. Desperately.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | WAS among teams monitoring KP situation - cow - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 01:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: At what point, if ever, has Marc J Spears known anything internal about what the Mavs are doing?
It's basically Townsend/Stein and no one else that accurately reports the Mavs thoughts. Cato sometimes has good guesses. Fish is a big rumor mill. But Spears? This national guy that has zero connections to the inner circle of the Mavs is now breaking this? Gimmie a break.
Just posting the latest rumors. Further, it takes more than one team to do a trade so you don't need to be in the Mavs inner circle to get a scoop.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 01:22 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: We need this fire. This passion. Desperately.
-He is damned near 35.
-Since his next year is a team option, he could very well be a free agent.
-We aren't a contender and Dragic isn't going to move that needle this season.
-You don't give up your best asset given the above three facts.
-I also don't see why the Heat would make that move while they are in the playoff hunt and a year removed from the finals.
I get that everyone wants to make moves but we need to be smart with asset management. I think you look at bad contracts league wide and then use a combo of our expiring players to try and get assets.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - SleepingHero - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 01:26 AM)cow Wrote: He is damned near 35.
So? If he's producing he's producing. The only players over 30 on this roster are Boban and Johnson. Experience is needed if the team wants to take a jump.
(02-27-2021, 01:26 AM)cow Wrote: -Since his next year is a team option, he could very well be a free agent.
I see that team option as a way the Mavs retain a starter/secondary playmaker without having to try and win his services in the summer. A skill Donnie is notoriously bad at.
(02-27-2021, 01:26 AM)cow Wrote: -We aren't a contender and Dragic isn't going to move that needle this season.Dragic might not move the needle this season but he could be extremely valuable next season. And regardless Dragic would help fix a LOT of this teams issues. Spacing? Yes. Reliable playmaking? Yes. Vet leadership and playoff experience? Yes.
(02-27-2021, 01:26 AM)cow Wrote: -You don't give up your best asset given the above three facts.
I think Brunson is a bit expensive for Dragic, and it wouldn't be my first choice in a deal for him. But if the Mavs did that tomorrow I wouldn't be mad. Especially if Brunson could net us an additional player and/or pick like Iggy or Olynyk.
(02-27-2021, 01:26 AM)cow Wrote: -I also don't see why the Heat would make that move while they are in the playoff hunt and a year removed from the finals.
I get that everyone wants to make moves but we need to be smart with asset management. I think you look at bad contracts league wide and then use a combo of our expiring players to try and get assets.
And I agree with you. I doubt heavily the Heat would trade Dragic in any case. BUT if he was available I'd be all for him.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 01:40 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: So? If he's producing he's producing. The only players over 30 on this roster are Boban and Johnson. Experience is needed if the team wants to take a jump.
You don't take a young, valuable asset and flip it for someone who most likely isn't going to be in the league when this team is ready to compete especially when your team is razor thin on assets and there is a good chance you could sign him outright in the offseason. I like Dragic. I'd love to have him here but I'm not going to give up anything of value for a team that's going to struggle to make the playoffs with or without him.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Mavs2021 - 02-27-2021
Now you know why I throw tantrums,when Mavs draft Satnam Singh.As the greatest show on television told us all the pieces matter. I don't know what will happen,but there is no way Carlisle,Donnie and Porzingis will survive this offseason. One will be the fall guy for this decade long mess,especially once our overrated egomaniacal owner gets his media attention as Dolan West and looks to shift blame. We are getting there.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 02:01 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Now you know why I throw tantrums,when Mavs draft Satnam Singh.As the greatest show on television told us all the pieces matter. I don't know what will happen,but there is no way Carlisle,Donnie and Porzingis will survive this offseason. One will be the fall guy for this decade long mess,especially once our overrated egomaniacal owner gets his media attention as Dolan West and looks to shift blame. We are getting there.
Maybe KP but doubtful. Carlisle and Donnie aren't getting canned until Luka leaves.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - ThisIStheYear - 02-27-2021
LMAO at the Brunson for old man Dragic trade idea, especially touting the greatness of Dragic’s shooting splits: 44/36/80. Brunson has that beat by a mile (52/42/88) and he’s still improving. That just sounds like the ravings of someone who wants an all Euro team. I can see it now. Dragic, Luka, KP, and Maxi in the starting lineup. Just one more and you have the dream. Those guys would get absolutely smoked, even with Luka.
Just say no to Dragic and move KP for some guys with toughness and athleticism who rebound, defend, and play a hard nosed American brand of ball.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 03:00 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: ...and play a hard nosed American brand of ball.
![[Image: dirk%20nowitzki%20frustrated%20with%20mavs.jpg]](https://www.hoopsvibe.com/images/stories/dirk%20nowitzki%20frustrated%20with%20mavs.jpg)
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Branduil - 02-27-2021
I would be okay with Dragic for the right price, like Johnson+JRich maybe, but giving up Brunson for him would be madness.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Omega_Supreme - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 04:15 AM)Branduil Wrote: I would be okay with Dragic for the right price, like Johnson+JRich maybe, but giving up Brunson for him would be madness.
Its straight out of Donnie's playbook
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | WAS among teams monitoring KP situation - khaled1987 - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 01:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: At what point, if ever, has Marc J Spears known anything internal about what the Mavs are doing?
It's basically Townsend/Stein and no one else that accurately reports the Mavs thoughts. Cato sometimes has good guesses. Fish is a big rumor mill. But Spears? This national guy that has zero connections to the inner circle of the Mavs is now breaking this? Gimmie a break.
Does he have anything internal regarding the rest of the league either?
Spears articles and insight always felt about race and SJW stuff (good for him) and not real NBA talk, and he barely breaks any news.
Seems to me it is like Brian Windhorst type of rumors , add some guessing/opinion to rumors and make it a news.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - khaled1987 - 02-27-2021
On a weird note, KP is now second in trending players in trade machine
:https://tradenba.com/trade-machine
Lowry first and Kemba 3rd
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Kammrath - 02-27-2021
RE: Marc Spears
He is not going to be the mouthpiece for the Mavs, but for other teams and agents. But he definitely has legit sources in the NBA world, regardless of what you think about him.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - ItsGoTime - 02-27-2021
He's #2? Let me fire up that trade machine! Add First Team all Trade Machine to his resume!
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - khaled1987 - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 07:58 AM)Kammrath Wrote: RE: Marc Spears
He is not going to be the mouthpiece for the Mavs, but for other teams and agents. But he definitely has legit sources in the NBA world, regardless of what you think about him.
I would like to be corrected here, but what news did he ever broke that proves he is really connected?
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Mavs2021 - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 06:43 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: On a weird note, KP is now second in trending players in trade machine
https://tradenba.com/trade-machine
Lowry first and Kemba 3rd
At least other fans are still interested in him, but can we see the other side of the equation.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - ThisIStheYear - 02-27-2021
I hear you can get a top shot moment of KP for $450. How many Kembas would that bring?
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - chaparral - 02-27-2021
So the majority opinion is that Luka and the Mavs need a 2nd creator or veteran PG to help this team. But giving up Brunson in the trade is not a good Idea. Some would not like that player to be another euro, so Dragic, Rubio and Satoransky are out. Salary wise I would rule out trading for Wall, Lowry and Holiday (not available anyway). Also, Dinwiddie is injured this season so he's out for a trade. And Rose was just traded to NYK so he's not available.
So here is a short list of guards that might be available this season in a trade - Ball, Rozier, or George Hill.
JRich + Rooky + pick might get us Ball. But Ball still needs to grow himself as a player and then there is that Dad thing.
Rozier is averaging 15 shoots a game, would we still need THJ? But JRich + WCS or Burke + Pick might get it done.
Last would you swap JRich for Hill, probable not, only played 14 games this year and is 34?
So Is there anyone else out there available in a trade this TDL that could help as a 2nd creator or PG?