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RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Scott41theMavs - 10-15-2020 (10-15-2020, 06:12 PM)StepBackJay Wrote:(10-15-2020, 05:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(10-15-2020, 05:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: But then I notice that there are rumors about 4-5 teams wanting to trade out of this draft altogether I don't know about "teams," but Cuban was asked that very question about this very draft and said, "We're buyers." After that, and with the selection of decent players like Tiger, Woodard, Reed, et al. who will likely be available there, I would actually be mad if we traded away 18 and then didn't buy one of those picks. Why not buy a pick and draft and stash Bolmaro, if nothing else? Or even Aleksej if he's still available? I would be slightly disappointed if we kept 18 and still didn't do that. (10-15-2020, 05:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(10-15-2020, 05:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: But then I notice that there are rumors about 4-5 teams wanting to trade out of this draft altogether In a sense, there isn't much difference between 10-50, but a couple of those players could end up being stars, several could become serviceable rotation players by year three, and at least half of them will end up being useless. Scouting, scouting, scouting, scouting, scouting. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Kammrath - 10-15-2020 (10-15-2020, 06:12 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Remember we had pick 13 in 2013 and passed on Giannis because he was 3 years away and Mavs wanted to git gud now (Dwight Howard)! They traded down for Shane Larkin (#18 btw!) I didn't have Giannis on my radar that year, but I was pissed the Mavs didn't get Schroder, Gobert, or Dieng, as I was singing all of their praises. I am not exaggerating when I say that I think the scouting of this board over the years has often been better than the Mavs actual choices on draft day. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Mavs2019 - 10-15-2020 (10-15-2020, 06:12 PM)StepBackJay Wrote:(10-15-2020, 05:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(10-15-2020, 05:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: But then I notice that there are rumors about 4-5 teams wanting to trade out of this draft altogether It´s funny though. Everybody thinks of 29 year old Facundo Campazzo as this untapped potential, when 28 year old Shane Larkin is a superstar in European basketball. Last season he led the EuroLeague in scoring, while shooting 56/51/90. If Larkinovic had no priors everybody would be all over him to come to the NBA. More curious case though is Ricky Ledo. He´s bouncing around from team to team, though it seems a bit unclear why, since his raw numbers are actually pretty good, whether it´s EuroLeague, Turkey, Italy or China. He must be Euro Westbrook. In Italy they released him after eight games as the league´s leading scorer. He must be a selfish pain in the a**. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - KillerLeft - 10-15-2020 Ah, Ricky Ledo. How convinced we all were that he was the missing piece. The one I had total (misplaced) faith in was Antoine Wright. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - FunkBoreland - 10-15-2020 https://twitter.com/RyanMainville/status/1316573969877786626 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - ClutchDirk - 10-16-2020 By Saturday afternoon we will know for sure if WCS and THJ opt in or not... THJ most likely...WCS not for sure... RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - omahen - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 12:59 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: By Saturday afternoon we will know for sure if WCS and THJ opt in or not... That is great, it will be known before draft, giving more options RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Scott41theMavs - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 01:03 AM)omahen Wrote:(10-16-2020, 12:59 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: By Saturday afternoon we will know for sure if WCS and THJ opt in or not... https://media.giphy.com/media/msKNSs8rmJ5m/giphy.gif RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Hypermav - 10-16-2020 (10-15-2020, 07:34 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Larkinoviclol RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - DanSchwartzgan - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 12:59 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: By Saturday afternoon we will know for sure if WCS and THJ opt in or not... I don't believe that date has been determined/announced yet. The 10/17 date was back when the drafted was slated for October. With the draft set for 11/18, I imagine the final player option date will be 11/19 or 11/20. Here is what John Hollinger wrote on the topic a couple of days ago: "Along with that (the cap number), the league will need to rewrite all of the player options, team options and partial guarantee dates in every NBA contract for 2020-21 to reflect the revised offseason calendar. This was already done once, shortly before the resumption of play in the bubble, and it shouldn’t be too difficult to repeat. With the draft likely pegged at Nov. 18 (see below), the league just needs to nail down the date free agency begins and then it can get to work on the options." RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - omahen - 10-16-2020 This time I tried to have a bit of longer term perspective when thinking about next moves. If we keep our assets this offseason (flip Wright for someone meh expiring), we can have max cap space next one. What we also can have is Brunson, #18 pick, #31 pick, 2025 FRP and 2027 FRP. Now this becomes a respectable asset chest. We won't have contracts to match top salaries, but Powell and assets could bring us into the Covington, LaVine and similar discussions. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - Mavs2019 - 10-16-2020 (10-14-2020, 11:38 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote:Why? It´s still only a rental. You can´t pay Schroeder or OPJ on top of a great FA.(10-14-2020, 11:20 PM)fifteenth Wrote:(10-14-2020, 10:21 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote:(10-14-2020, 10:17 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:(10-14-2020, 10:02 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: One question: If we trade Wright/Jackson/18 for Schroder, do we get his rights in '21 ? You basically trade Schroeder/THJ re-sign for 2021 All-Star and #18 pick. This makes no sense. What you want to do is either keep #18 or trade for somebody with a long-term contract below $10M/p.a. That Schroeder would knock Brunson out of the rotation only makes it worse. Rentals below All-Star level are a total no-go to me. I´d rather use the free agent market to sign a top player at a bargain prize. I´m not convinced Millsap will even require the full MLE. Maybe you can split the MLE between him and Kris Dunn. That´s a move, I´d love to see. Don´t overthink this off-season. Doncic/Brunson/Wright Dunn/THJ/Curry DFS/18th pick/31st pick Millsap/Kleber/Powell Porzingis/WCS/Boban Sorry Mr. Jackson, I am for real, didn´t mean to forget you again, I apologize... If your FO is good, they´ll know by March whether the team is good enough to compete this season and whether they have an honest shot at the superstar FAs. If not, then the deceased Spurs will surely find any offer for DeRozan or Aldridge enticing at that point. So more than anything I don´t feel the timeline. No need to rush decisions right now. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - omahen - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 08:07 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Why? In order to get to max cap space you need to get rid of two 2021 contracts. Preferably Wright and another one. You can trade Wright for a meh expiring player in 2020. You can use pick to dump Wright for cap space in 2021 (no one will just give you cap space for a player like Wright). Or you can go for a proven player, that would make us better in 2020. Because it is important to be better in 2020, to compete as attractive destination with the likes of Miami, Toronto, perhaps hyped New Orleans and others. Schroeder doesn't kick Brunson out of rotation, it basically leaves him where he is - a back up PG. Schroeder would be starting next to Luka while Curry, Brunson would come of the bench. If max free agent pipe dream doesn't work, we still have Schroeders bird rights. (10-16-2020, 08:07 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: I´m not convinced Millsap will even require the full MLE. I think both Dunn and Millsap will get a deal starting at least at 8 mil per season. The only question is the duration of the contract. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - dirkfansince1998 - 10-16-2020 Predicition: Mavs trade for Danny Green. Expiring contract and a few years ago he was a great defender. That´s all the MBT is looking for. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - omahen - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 08:21 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Predicition: Mavs trade for Danny Green. Expiring contract and a few years ago he was a great defender. That´s all the MBT is looking for. Hm, even if Mavs would want it, I doubt Lakers would (unless it is a three team trade). Green is the one contract Lakers have to facilitate a bigger trade. Perhaps I see this more as a TDL deal - sort of dump bad 2021 money deal. Assuming of course Green will be traded from Lakers first. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - IamDougieFresh - 10-16-2020 Maybe Cleveland would go for Wright for Exum's expiring contact? RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - StepBackJay - 10-16-2020 (10-15-2020, 08:50 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Ah, Ricky Ledo. How convinced we all were that he was the missing piece. The one I had total (misplaced) faith in was Antoine Wright. He was great in NBA 2K14, really anchored my team. (10-16-2020, 08:37 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Maybe Cleveland would go for Wright for Exum's expiring contact? I think it's possible that Mavs could send Wright for something like that + a future 2nd round pick or something just to add a little bit more incentive. Wright is a good enough player that a team like Cleveland might take him "for free" without a lot more compensation. (10-16-2020, 08:17 AM)omahen Wrote: Schroeder doesn't kick Brunson out of rotation, it basically leaves him where he is - a back up PG. Schroeder would be starting next to Luka while Curry, Brunson would come of the bench. I think it's premature to know how the rotations would go until we know the final roster and even then who knows. Schroder could be effective in the starting lineup or off the bench. We know the Mavs like THJ next to Luka. THJ could be the SF in the lineup or Schroder could play off the bench. If he does come off the bench he likely does so to a large extent at the expense of Brunson's minutes. There are injuries of course which will effect lineups on any given night. Brunson as your 5th or 6th guard is pretty good. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - IamDougieFresh - 10-16-2020 I wish we had prime Monta Ellis as 6th man RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - fifteenth - 10-16-2020 Manta is a lot better when he can play with Dirk... so we'd have to bring Dirk back too RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Dec 1?) + Salary Chart | Season (Jan 18?) - KillerLeft - 10-16-2020 (10-16-2020, 09:45 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: I wish we had prime Monta Ellis as 6th man Gross. Dwight Powell is WAY better, tbqfhwy |