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RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - StepBackJay - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 08:00 PM)omahen Wrote: Philly has two options: CP3 is making 44 million dollars as a 37 year old in 2021, that isn't overpaid?? At any rate, I don't see them doing Harris. I am sure they'd want to move Horford + other stuff. Maybe who knows but they will have to compete with offers from other desperate franchises. Sixers have options, I don't think they are in as near bad a shape as ppl make them out to be. They can try Embiid + Simmons a couple more years before they break them up, with a coach that actually knows what he's doing. They can swap out other players. Richardson, Horford & Harris could all be moved for other players that might fit better around their core guys. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Tyler - 09-24-2020 I understand many of you guys seem down on Montrezl Harrell based on his playoff performance, but if the price is right I think he could be a terrific asset in Dallas and exactly the type of physical energy guy they're looking for next to KP. Reading between the lines, I also suspect he's gone from LA as he seems sorta fed up with the locker room over there. So I do think he's there for the taking. The Clippers can't really afford to let assets go for nothing. They could also use more guards. If Dallas could trade Wright for a S&T Harrell at similar money, I'm in. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 08:55 PM)Tyler Wrote: I understand many of you guys seem down on Montrezl Harrell based on his playoff performance, but if the price is right I think he could be a terrific asset in Dallas and exactly the type of physical energy guy they're looking for next to KP. Reading between the lines, I also suspect he's gone from LA as he seems sorta fed up with the locker room over there. So I do think he's there for the taking. Harrell's going to get more money than that. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - khaled1987 - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 05:14 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Houston fan chatter that there’s mutual interest in WB to Phoenix centered around Rubio. Apparently Monty Williams and WB are close from their time at OKC. They wouldn’t need to salary match either so Houston could avoid the luxury tax This can be one of those trades that makes both teams worse RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - fifteenth - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 08:18 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 08:11 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Marion was an elite defender LOL!!! RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 OT: all my friends (???) love to point out that I look like Conan O'Brien... RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Kammrath - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:00 PM)fifteenth Wrote: LOL!!! RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - fifteenth - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:05 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:00 PM)fifteenth Wrote: LOL!!! Granted. But first, pal, let me share some thoughts with you about why Matrix... j/k Go blow stuff up Actually, just go to that other thread and set SBJ straight about HB RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - dirkfansince1998 - 09-24-2020 I am wiling tol make a deal. 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great and I will stop complaining about plan powder RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 Hey, where's our Sleeping Hero-of-the-non-Mavs-playoffs? There's a game going on. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Kammrath - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great Fif LOVES Marion. The back story is that he and I were in an endless fight that started about 8 years ago and continued for the last three years of Marion's career. My stance: 1) Marion was a basically lazy and negative defender in the regular season his WHOLE time with the Mavs, hurting them most of the time and in some massive ways at times. 2) Marion was a GREAT defender for the 2010, 2011, 2012 playoff runs. No argument there. 3) After the 2012 playoffs he was a TOTAL disaster and was getting in the way of the Mavs moving forward as a franchise. 4) I was arguing that the Mavs would have had one more run with Dirk if Marion would have been traded. I was then vindicated with his disastrous last season in CLE and then retirement. He was totally washed up as I had been saying. The Mavs were loyal to him when they should have been loyal to others (like Tyson). RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - fifteenth - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I am wiling tol make a deal. 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great and I will stop complaining about plan powder df98, I will gladly agree that Marion was great! And, I'll happily shout from the roof tops that post 2011 plan powder was an abomination of a team building strategy! RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:30 PM)fifteenth Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I am wiling tol make a deal. 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great and I will stop complaining about plan powder df98 got pwned. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Jason Terry - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I am wiling tol make a deal. 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great and I will stop complaining about plan powder1. Dirk 2. Chandler 3. Kidd 4. Terry 5. Marion thats where matrix ranks on the list of most important players to getting our hero the championship he deserved. “Great” is a strong word for any player. Underrated is a better word. He was key offensively in transition and being able to cut to the basket(we lacked that for awhile). Defensively and on the boards too he had an all around game and fit in with our culture. That’s how we won it all. It was with team players like marion holding it all together. Still looking for someone like that right now today in 2020 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:32 PM)Jason Terry Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I am wiling tol make a deal. 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great and I will stop complaining about plan powder1. Dirk I agree completely with your ranking. Then JJB, then Peja (early rounds), then DSteve. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - fifteenth - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great Interestingly, I can agree with a good bit of that :-) RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - dirkfansince1998 - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great How did I miss this conversation. I think I started posting in 2014. Well...post championship Marion wasn´t what he used to be but ultimately he wasn´t the problem. Rest of the roster declined even more or was replaced with clearly worse players. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Scott41theMavs - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:35 PM)fifteenth Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:14 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: 15th admits that Shawn Marion was great That must be an example of hindsight being 20/20, because that wasn't your take at the time... RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - Kammrath - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:30 PM)fifteenth Wrote: post 2011 plan powder was an abomination of a team building strategy My other big argument with you and others was that I fiercely defended the Odom acquisition and the release of Tyson (based on the salary he was asking). I am still fine that the Mavs went "plan powder" as I do believe they had promises (or leads) from Deron and Dwight's agents. Just because you fail at something doesn't always mean it is "wrong." I still defend the logic of those decisions based on the AVAILABLE knowledge at the time. I do NOT defend not trading Marion. The evidence at the time said it was time to move him along. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade & Free Agency (Nov 20?) + Salary Chart - dirkfansince1998 - 09-24-2020 (09-24-2020, 09:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(09-24-2020, 09:30 PM)fifteenth Wrote: post 2011 plan powder was an abomination of a team building strategy Bad predictions or misjudging a player. I think most of us had similar bad takes. I was pro Rondo trade. Really thought he was the missing piece for one last run with Dirk. |