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RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - FunkBoreland - 11-26-2020 (11-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: You need to build a smart reputation as a front office to be a draw an elite player. That´s why players follow around Riley, West, Morey and to a lesser extent Ainge or Ujiri. https://www.npr.org/2018/09/19/649615551/investigation-into-dallas-mavericks-reveals-sexual-misconduct-over-20-years Remember, two years ago the Mavericks were caught in a sexual harassment trouble. Yes, it was mostly towards Terdema Ussey, but also on Earl Sneed, Mavs team reporter who had domestic abuses, a ticket sales employee who shared pornography "threatening outburts" and our HR guy for failing to notified Cuban (supposedly). Yes they're minor roles, but there part of the organ. Having this reported publicly definitely wasn't going to help us in players who want to part of good culture organization. Quote:[b]Recommendations for the Mavs[/b] Mavs had fired Ussey and hired Cynthia Marshall. A sort of complete 180 in management, "we'll hire a woman to say were 100 percent against sexual harrasment" type of change. Quote:"It is regrettable that this problematic workplace culture was not addressed sooner," she said. "I do believe we have now addressed it and created an environment that is respectful of women and men. We will continue to take steps to support and restore employees as best we can." The quote made me wonder what could of change had it been address sooner. Yes, this is team operations as far as promoting the Mavs but like I said they're part of the organ. After reading 4 pages of front office and organization perception, you would want everyone in the team operations to be complete professionals and respectful of one another. I felt that in recent years, Mavs not only wanted to change there office culture but to be perceived as a team organization that values the "human" side of NBA life. Mark Cuban has been vocal in twitter, speaking for public change, politics, sort of championing for whats right. Heres another example of a team with bad reputation: https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/11/24/kelly-oubre-jr-takes-shot-at-suns-owner-robert-sarver-on-way-out/ Quote:One of the questions Oubre was asked was what it will be like playing for Joe Lacob and a Warriors ownership willing to spend (Golden State will be deep into the luxury tax this season) as opposed to playing for Robert Sarver in Phoenix, an owner with a reputation for pinching pennies and sticking his nose into basketball operations. Via Nick Friedell of ESPN: There was a rumour that Devin Booker wanted out. Not sure if it was false or true, but you definitely lean towards true if you conside Sarver's handling of the organization. Golden State won championships not by accidents but by smart strategy. They hire Steve Kerr, a player whose been around Chicago Bulls championship seasons and a genuinely great person. The Mavs subtly put acts of change, actions of good character, and lamenting loss (like Donnie addressing the departure of Seth and his wife Callie) to demonstrate its management is emphasizing humanely. Im all for it. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - Hypermav - 11-26-2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-yNIh79Og&ab_channel=ESPN Happy Thanksgiving RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - burekemde - 11-27-2020 Are we a sure playoff team next season? Other teams have improved either from trade draft and getting injured players back. Memphis is going to be better, NO, GSW etc. Last season we just made it but we should be more safe than that. IMO we are not a deep team and one injury from missing playoffs. I like the strategy we had a good draft especially terry pick. We had decent trades improving us slightly. But did we make major improvement? Thats up for debate. If we improved slightly are we still a playoff lock, considering other teams improved a lot? RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - omahen - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 03:28 AM)burekemde Wrote: Are we a sure playoff team next season? Other teams have improved either from trade draft and getting injured players back. Memphis is going to be better, NO, GSW etc. We have a separate topic on this. Of course if we have some big injuries, playoff might be in trouble. But that goes for everyone. If LeBron misses half the season, are we sure Lakers are a playoff team? Only to comment a couple of teams you mentioned. How did Memphis get better? They basically kept their team and internal growth is the only thing they are counting on. We can expect internal growth from Mavs too. New Orleans lost their best player Holiday and Favors and signed Bledsoe and Adams. I would say they are worse than last year, not to mention I have a really hard time to see starting five of Bledsoe-Ball-Ingram-Zion-Adams with basically 4 non shooters play any kind of efficient offense. They will be probably better defensively. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - SleepingHero - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 03:28 AM)burekemde Wrote: Are we a sure playoff team next season? Other teams have improved either from trade draft and getting injured players back. Memphis is going to be better, NO, GSW etc. Vegas has us as a top 4 playoff team. The Ringer think we are top 4. NBC has us at 6th behind GSW and Utah. CBS at 5. We shored up our biggest weaknesses, which was wing depth, and defense. We added a crazy enforcer which we needed. (11-27-2020, 03:28 AM)burekemde Wrote: Last season we just made it but we should be more safe than that. IMO we are not a deep team and one injury from missing playoffs. We were ravaged by injuries last year. Luka and KP, our literal backbones, both missed significant time. We had 2 season ending injuries on key role players in Powell and Brunson. We also had 2 non-existent players that combined played 69 minutes total in the playoffs. Despite this, the Mavs were easily in the playoffs. The difference between the 7th seed and the 8th seed last year was almost the same difference as the 7th seed and the 2nd seed. The Mavs were 4gb the 3rd seed. Nearly 8 games ahead the 7th. I wouldn't call that barely making it. Remember, that's with Luka missing 13 games, KP missing 17 games, and injuries galore all around. Luka/Brunson/JJ THJ/Burke/Green/Terry JRich/DFS/Iwundu Kleber/Johnson/Bey KP/Powell/Boban/WCS. We're almost 2-3 deep at every position. I admit we are light on bigman depth depending on how Powell looks. And I would still like to add another secondary playmaker. But those are luxuries, not necessities. (11-27-2020, 03:28 AM)burekemde Wrote: I like the strategy we had a good draft especially terry pick. We had decent trades improving us slightly. But did we make major improvement? Thats up for debate. If we improved slightly are we still a playoff lock, considering other teams improved a lot? I think adding the kind of defender in Richardson would qualify as a major improvement. We weren't hurting for offense. Bobby Karralla pointed out that if the Mavs lost 2.3 points per possession on offense, they would have still led the league in offensive efficiency by a wide margin. But if they saved 2.3 points per possession more on defense, they'd have jumped from the 18th ranked defense to 9th. Thats HUGE. Mavs were one of the worst clutch teams in NBA history as well. They were 17-24 in clutch games. The only Western conference playoff team under .500. Despite that, the Mavs were still top 6 in overall team Net rating. Further, I think that yes, some WC playoff teams did improve. Lakers for one on paper did. Clips had some savvy moves. PHX probably improved the most. But other than that, who really made big leaps? GSW I figured would've been a lock, but now Klay is out. I still think they make it but not for sure top 5. Portland made a great trade for RoCo, but they then sign DJJ who couldn't get on the floor for Miami, post-achilles Rodney Hood, whatever's left of Melo, Enes Kanter who couldn't be played in the playoffs cause he can't guard, and a flyer on Giles. Is that a major improvement from what they were? OKC isn't in the playoff race anymore so that's 1 freed spot. Houston is looking like they're about to implode with both Harden and WB wanting out. Even if they were to keep them, chemistry and lack of fit could see them taking a significant step back. Memphis is an interesting add, but I don't see Ja+JJJr beating out any of the previous teams. Minnesota looks like they can compete on paper but I'll have to see it to believe it that Towns+Russell can make a jump. Don't underestimate the brilliance of Luka Doncic. The Mavs have a formidable team as much as anyone in my eyes. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - omahen - 11-27-2020 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1332343990134448136 RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - Hypermav - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 10:24 AM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1332343990134448136 RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - StepBackJay - 11-27-2020 Still wonder if Mavs have a trade lined up or already know the player likely to get cut. It's really a mystery lol. You would think Iwundu and Barea are the options for a cut. It's an expensive flyer to to sign somebody for a million plus only to cut them a few weeks later. Very strange. The other thing to watch is that Rick used Boban sparingly last year. Only 10 mpg, altho Boban did shine during the playoffs as well as the last game before the last got put on hold. I feel like Rick thinks of Boban as a situational player to use in spots which might not be worth spending a roster spot on. He is a good team guy but maybe they think JJB being on the bench is good enough for the vet role. Mavs now have Powell back as well as WCS and James Johnson who will likely play some small-ball 5. Rick chose to go small last year when Mavs were short-handed. There were games where Boban didn't play a second to my amazement despite Mavs not really having many other options. Rick would play like Jackson at the 4 rather than give Boban minutes. All that to say even with KP being out a few weeks Rick could calculate that the Mavs have enough bigs and thus Boban is a bonus. If Iwundu plays well then maybe Boban gets cut or traded. I am suspicious that Mavs would sign JJB only to cut him a couple weeks later. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - khaled1987 - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 11:54 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Mavs now have Powell back as well as WCS and James Johnson who will likely play some small-ball 5. Rick chose to go small last year when Mavs were short-handed. There were games where Boban didn't play a second to my amazement despite Mavs not really having many other options. Rick would play like Jackson at the 4 rather than give Boban minutes. Actually I think James Johnson might be the one on his way out. He is expensive to waive, but if he is really not in coach plans, it will still be the best choice RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - SleepingHero - 11-27-2020 Absolutely no way the Mavs cut Boban. He's the best locker room guy we've had in the post Dirk era. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - StepBackJay - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 12:22 PM)khaled1987 Wrote:(11-27-2020, 11:54 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Mavs now have Powell back as well as WCS and James Johnson who will likely play some small-ball 5. Rick chose to go small last year when Mavs were short-handed. There were games where Boban didn't play a second to my amazement despite Mavs not really having many other options. Rick would play like Jackson at the 4 rather than give Boban minutes. Ya that's an interesting theory. The problem is that he a) has pretty good skills Rick likes in a stretch big b) he's a tough guy enforcer we really need and c) he is a large expiring that could be useful later on. (11-27-2020, 01:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Absolutely no way the Mavs cut Boban. He's the best locker room guy we've had in the post Dirk era. Mavs have lots of locker room guys. I am not predicting it but just saying it could happen. Boban played very sparingly last year. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - FunkBoreland - 11-27-2020 Doesn't someone have link here that said even if Barea is cut, he is still owe money because of his loyalty/tenure. The link certainly imply that they want to treat him right but somehow appeal to him to stay. Not sure in what capacity if its developmental coach or one where he can be back on the team if a PG is injured (can they do that?). RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - SleepingHero - 11-27-2020 I don't see why Cubes would just hand Barea nearly 3 mil because he's played here a long time. Its an NBA team, not a charity. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - Kammrath - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 03:55 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't see why Cubes would just hand Barea nearly 3 mil because he's played here a long time. Its an NBA team, not a charity. If Barea is not getting a "gold watch" then there are two options: 1) Cuban is handing someone ELSE a bunch of money. OR 2) There is a trade in the works. I think JJB getting handed money makes the most sense of the three. Time will tell. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - burekemde - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 04:25 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:(11-27-2020, 03:28 AM)burekemde Wrote: Are we a sure playoff team next season? Other teams have improved either from trade draft and getting injured players back. Memphis is going to be better, NO, GSW etc. I do also think we have improved, and that we are a playoff team. But I do not think this is clear cut. I dont see Richardson as major improvement. Its not like this is a star compared to a rotational player we had on the roster earlier. He is better overall player than Curry, but the margin is not that big. Curry is a lot better shooter, Richardson better defender. For all the rest, it depends how the picks go. I think Terry will be the game changer, but thats just my opinion. If all our picks do not deliver this season, which would be normal as it takes time to develop young players, and if Richardson is slightly better than Curry, the I do not believe we should consider our self lock for playoffs. It would be different case if we brought in a star player. I do agree with your points, and I hope you are right. There is also the element of going a step back in development from year to year. For instance if THJ reverses and shoots worse. In games where THJ's shooting was terrible, Curry was suddenly lights out. And vice versa in games where Curry struggled, thats the games we saw THJ excel. Will the same be with Richardson? We need elite shooting every game. In games where THJ will struggle, im reserved if Richardson can help us win the games in same way as Curry did. We will see. It will be different. I believe we will be better, but its hard to predict. Also the Powell situation, we had a great start with him and he may be a much worse player if he lost a step. Lots of considerations go into this. I do not believe we are a lock and we will compete for the playoffs and I do hope Lukas brilliance again gets us in playoffs. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - WillE - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 03:55 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't see why Cubes would just hand Barea nearly 3 mil because he's played here a long time. Its an NBA team, not a charity. He already handed out millions to a player once, just because he felt this to be the right thing to do: That player was named Dirk and received with 25 mil the highest annual salary of his career. I could imagine that JJ is not ready to call it quits yet - probably because his injury robbed him some time - and is determined to keep playing. MBT may think different but out of respect will give him a chance until he admits it for himself. That's the same treatment Dirk received btw, so nothing new here from what I see. And if you ask me: he earned it. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - KillerLeft - 11-27-2020 https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/k29mf0/josh_richardson_your_dogs_are_on_the_way_mavs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - Jason Terry - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 04:30 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/k29mf0/josh_richardson_your_dogs_are_on_the_way_mavs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3We got dogs!!! These 2 are about fit perfect on our squad. No more 19th ranked defense and guys taking cheap shots at luka RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - fifteenth - 11-27-2020 (11-27-2020, 04:30 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/k29mf0/josh_richardson_your_dogs_are_on_the_way_mavs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 This fires me up RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know." - StepBackJay - 11-27-2020 https://twitter.com/bobbykaralla/status/1332465699634229249 So Mavs gave up 2 2nds as part of the Jackson, Wright trade. Someone was a negative asset if we gave up picks bc I doubt the Mavs were giving up picks for the privilege of adding James Johnson. |