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RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 So if you are on the fence about wanting Bogdan I was thinking last night that it's really about upping your assets is why you should go after him. If you accept the assumption that Donte=Brunson, Illyasova= Wright + an extra year of similar salary, DJ Wilson=Justin Jackson than the Mavs can actually offer a similar trade to the one the Kings were willing to do. Maybe you have to add in a small asset to clinch that. But I don't think that deal is all that far off from the one they agreed to. Some of y'all hate on Brunson alot but yet I hear stuff last night about what a find he was for the Mavs in the 2nd round. I think he's more respected than you think sort of like Donte. But say sign Bogdan to a 20 mill a year deal that's a huge asset upgrade IMO. The Kings have showed their cards and don't have the negotiating power to really make you buy that they will match an offer if you just clear the cap space. A great time to take advantage and get an asset upgrade. My next thought was that I think he takes a step up here. I'll be fascinated to see how much and how quickly. But my next thought was what if he immediately gets a big boost to his #s and improves his shooting with all his open looks he'll have? Bogdan at 20 mill, THJ at 20 mill and Richardson at 11 mill with the last 2 likely expiring. You have ALOT of money you can take and you now have an attractive asset in a trade at the deadline. Add in 2025 and 2027 and maybe that's enough to get a big name in trade. Also if you hit on your draft picks at all for this year and they show something... That's even more to add. (11-19-2020, 12:40 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I think Jae stays in Miami. I've thought so all along. Miami has plenty of cap room for him. I have been thinking that at as well. I seemed to recall Crowder not being happy here. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Hypermav - 11-19-2020 Well, everyone recovered from being Rubio prepared...Killer you need to make a statement or anything RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:39 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I think Jae stays in Miami. I've thought so all along. Miami has plenty of cap room for him. Miami only has 48 mill + Bam's cap hold which is pretty reasonable + whatever they pay Dragic and Jones. They have all the space to make moves this summer and retain room for Giannis. But I think the Giannis thing is done in about 48 hours. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Tyler - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:48 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I seemed to recall Crowder not being happy here. I also remember him talking about his love for Dallas long after being traded. Loving the team/city, and being frustrated with his role are not mutually exclusive. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:40 PM)cow Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:38 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: Ibaka fits the criteria of both sides of the ball too. averaged 15 ppg on 38% shooting from 3. You had reports saying Bogdan to Bucks lol. Rumors mean nothing. But I do think if he's available for MLE he goes to the Nets. Although will he be promised a starting job? IF not he'll be guaranteed of more playing time elsewhere. Perhaps not even the Mavs. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cow - 11-19-2020 I can't imagine being on the fence if Bogdan is gettable. That seems like a bird in the hand versus two in the bush scenario. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - StepBackJay - 11-19-2020 Millsap or Ibaka would be great. Tucker would also be great. Some other guys that aren't household names will also be gettable should we not land a bigger piece. I don't think we need a Bog/Hayward type move right now unless we get a great deal. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - KillerLeft - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:49 PM)Hypermav Wrote: Well, everyone recovered from being Rubio prepared...Killer you need to make a statement or anything (11-19-2020, 12:55 PM)cow Wrote: I can't imagine being on the fence if Bogdan is gettable. That seems like a bird in the hand versus two in the bush scenario. I'll say this: IF the Mavs look at him and think he's that 3rd guy/secondary ball-handling star, then sure - STRIKE NOW. I just don't think we can assume they see him that way. But, at this point, whatever THEY think about him is trustable for me. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - HanspardsShowerVoice - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:52 PM)cjeter24 Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:39 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I think Jae stays in Miami. I've thought so all along. Miami has plenty of cap room for him. I've read that they're going to go hard after Gallo. If Giannis is off the table, they might up the money. They really got exposed when Dragic was hurt how much the depended on him to get buckets. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Jason Terry - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:33 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: More random thoughts...Not just waiting for Luka max but making sure KP isn’t big john wall. IF that were to happen and we already sent out picks for Gallo/Hayward/whoever, we could be screwed. I just think keeping the pick powder dry is important to have ammo to deal with whatever we need once this team faces disappointment at some point. Right now it’s all sunshine and puppies and we know from Dirk that we should’ve taken a longer term approach. We aren’t making the same mistake again Both sides of the ball thing i think is code for two way players Get ready mavs fans. Some of you will be shocked at how well Richardson plays under Rick. I’m talking 4yrs/$100 million starting point for his next contract and we will pay it after our business is done. His caphold is so low that we have great flexibility. We could keep him and still make max space. First team all defense next year for Richardson. Rick will turn him into a better version of RoCo Hardaway will be back at like $12 million a year if we don’t use the max space RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:55 PM)cow Wrote: I can't imagine being on the fence if Bogdan is gettable. That seems like a bird in the hand versus two in the bush scenario. I think he's clearly gettable. You just saw him get dealt for basically just Donte ha. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - ItsGoTime - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:Looks like YOU were not prepared!Quote:Well, everyone recovered from being Rubio prepared...Killer you need to make a statement or anything RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - KillerLeft - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Both sides of the ball thing i think is code for two way players RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - StepBackJay - 11-19-2020 Already a fan of a Luka/Rich/THJ/DFS/KP lineup. I think DFS is a spot you could potentially upgrade, whereby DFS would be moved to the bench. I like DFS a lot but you might be able to slide in Maxi into his spot or upgrade that spot with a FA. Millsap clearly would be a big upgrade we'd all be excited ab. Jae Crowder also I think would be an upgrade in the starting lineup. What I like ab Maxi is that his D is better and he helps rebounding. If we are able to bring in more depth pieces (like an extra stretch big), then Rick doesn't feel compelled to keep Maxi on the bench. As it stands he usually likes Maxi to slide into KP's spot on the offense when KP is sitting which I think is one of the reasons we didn't see Maxi in the starting lineup much last year. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 12:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:(11-19-2020, 12:49 PM)Hypermav Wrote: Well, everyone recovered from being Rubio prepared...Killer you need to make a statement or anything Yeah they may not... But he does run a ton of PNR. He's not elite in his #s there tho. But the fact he runs it so much still suggests its a role the coaching wants him to do and one he feels comfortable with. I'd think his #s would jump up quite a bit when he gets a roll guy. Kings personnel is not good for the PNR game. Fox has similar advanced #s. They are both around the 60th percentile. Also averages over 3 assists per game. To be fair the Mavs need to target a roll man too if WCS isn't resigned. But if there is one for sure thing about the Mavs its that a guard that can run the PNR is going to have his #s inflated here. That's why Trey Burke looked like a really good NBA player all of the sudden when given ample playing time ha. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Jason Terry - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 01:14 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Already a fan of a Luka/Rich/THJ/DFS/KP lineup. I think DFS is a spot you could potentially upgrade, whereby DFS would be moved to the bench. I like DFS a lot but you might be able to slide in Maxi into his spot or upgrade that spot with a FA. Millsap clearly would be a big upgrade we'd all be excited ab. Jae Crowder also I think would be an upgrade in the starting lineup.DFS as 6th man swiss army knife RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - cjeter24 - 11-19-2020 One big plus on Richardson is that DFS becomes less important to the Mavs. You could argue outside of Luka and KP he was the single most important player on the team. I think trading him wouldn't be nearly as painful although I'm not looking to move up. But he has value so it should be on the table if it gets a deal done. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - KillerLeft - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 01:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: One big plus on Richardson is that DFS becomes less important to the Mavs. See, I don't see it that way. I get where you're coming from, but to me SBey would have accomplished this, not Richardson. I think Richardson is now the answer to Dame, Mitchell, Booker, Westbrook, and DFS is still George, Lebron, Kawhi, etc. I think they complement each other, defensively, and aren't all that redundant. I also think they're counting on DFS to provide even more of a shooting threat than they have in the past. RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Tyler - 11-19-2020 https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1329495546034348034 RE: DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA (Nov 20) | Donnie: Mavs not done yet - Jason Terry - 11-19-2020 (11-19-2020, 01:42 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:Yes. DFS only struggled against the smaller faster players. Rich gives us that guy. Richardson guards George. DFS guards Kawhi.(11-19-2020, 01:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: One big plus on Richardson is that DFS becomes less important to the Mavs. |