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RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - dirkfansince1998 - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 10:56 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: That´s why you need proper evaluation on these younger players. Not really sure if I buy the team excuse in Dunns case. He was assisted on 96.6% of his made 3s and he only takes 2.2 attempts per game. Higher volume and worse percentages would have made sense. Low volume and even worse percentages is simply not good. Nearly all of his attempts are catch and shoot 3s and he is shooting 26% on them. Last season he was barely any better. 29% on catch and shoot 3s. 30% in 2018. 24% in his rookie season. According to the tracking data he was wide open on 1.7 of his attempts this season and only made 24%. Maybe he can make a Marcus Smart like transition but I don´t see it. Smart always had the mechanics he just lacked the consistency. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 https://twitter.com/cruzfe13/status/1326908499813670920 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - Mavs2019 - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 11:09 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:But how is Beverley supposed to improve our clutch offense.(11-12-2020, 10:09 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: What´s the argument to trade for Patrick Beverley, when I can just sign Kris Dunn? Though to be honest I think this is largely on Carlisle. His offense is predictable to a large extent. We miss Stotts a lot in these late game situations. Not to hate on your idea too much, but this is your roster for 2021/2022. I´ll use Capela + 1st = #18 + #31 as the base calculation for Covington. Also assume that we somehow swap Wright+Jackson for Beverley/Oubre with no additional costs. So I´m very generous here. Could easily argue to add Brunson+Kleber (since Houston has no center for example) Porzingis 32 Beverley 14 Covington 13 Powell 11 Doncic 10 Kleber 9 Curry 8 Brunson 2 That´s it. We have virtually no capspace next year, so our only option is to re-sign THJ and Oubre. If that team makes an NBA final, they should insert a Luka baby into Dirk´s fadeaway rather than a basketball. (11-12-2020, 11:22 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1326889212113793029 The Hornets. Damn. So that means Westrbook would become the first player to decline a 47M player option. Also no wonder nobody wants to trade anything/at all for Oladipo, if that is true. That sounds like one of the most unprofessional things I have ever heard. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - omahen - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 10:56 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: That´s why you need proper evaluation on these younger players.Proper evaluation is that Dunn is horrible from three. Teams are leaving him open intentionally daring him to shoot and he can't convert (at least this was in the two Mavs games). I love him as a defender and he would be great for us on that side of the floor, but I am affraid he would kill the offense as the only way he can contribute is if he has ball in his hands. PatBev on the other hand is not really a playmaker, more of a 3-D player. I am not really enthusiastic about him either, especially because of his contract, but I think Mavs need a player like that. Might be, Mavs didn't really want to give him 3 year deal in 2019 which was why he stayed with Clippers. So I don't know why they would change their mind now. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - cow - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 11:09 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:(11-12-2020, 10:09 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: What´s the argument to trade for Patrick Beverley, when I can just sign Kris Dunn? What if we look at the situation a little differently. If the rumors are true, there is dissent in the Clippers locker room mostly centering around the practice habits of KL/PG. The loudest voice is seemingly Lou Williams and it sounds like they want to get rid of him. I know he's old but he can get buckets, gives you that veteran presence and would be killer in the clutch should teams try to double Luka. Any interest? I'd give 31 for him. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 “DeMarcus Cousins continues to recover from the left knee injury that cost him his 2019-20 campaign and may not be ready to play on an opening day roster next month,” Austin Kent of Slam wrote. “There haven’t been any specific setbacks, Cousins’ agent Jeff Schwartz tells SLAM, but the former All-Star is intent on returning at full strength and in a situation that’s going to be a good fit for him.” RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - omahen - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 11:50 AM)cow Wrote: The loudest voice is seemingly Lou Williams and it sounds like they want to get rid of him. I think the narrative "want to get rid of him" is wrong if you assume they just want to dump him. He is a very good (offensive) player, 6th man of the year candidate, on a very low contract. Plus he doesn't bring long term contract baggage and could probably be resigned for a reasonable deal at his advanced age if we would want to. That being said, he certainly has value that is far bigger than #31 pick on the market. In any case, Clippers would be way more interested in a good player than the pick. Which player would you send to them if Wright, Powell and Jackson are not possible? RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - cow - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 12:05 PM)omahen Wrote:(11-12-2020, 11:50 AM)cow Wrote: The loudest voice is seemingly Lou Williams and it sounds like they want to get rid of him. Mostly agree. If the rumor is true, I do think his value is hurt by the team's desire to get rid of him. That's assuming the rumors are true and I do think there is more than enough evidence of smoke in the locker room coming from some combination of Harrell, Lou, and PatBev. I don't think this would be a two team trade anyway, but they are looing for point guard help. While I doubt they'd be interested in Wright, what if we threw in Brunson who could be a nice backup to Rondo (more rumors). I'd probably not give up much more than 31/Brunson because of Lou's age (35 on Oct 27). Lou for Jackson/Brunson works straight up but I'm with you that they can return better value elsewhere. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - SleepingHero - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 10:10 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: There really isn’t anything special about Oubre that makes this have to be centered around him. Dealing with Phoenix was just a direct route to #10. Also, just because the CP3 deal doesn’t happen, it doesn’t mean Dallas can’t do a deal with Phoenix directly. I tend to disagree with you here Dan on Oubre not being anything that special. He is a 24 year old highly athletic forward with great defensive tendencies and with a knack for scoring. He's basically what we all want DFS to be in the best case scenario. He seems to fit exactly what the Mavs are looking for on the wing. His expiring contract in 21' is just a bonus too. But I think you have a point that Oubre isn't the main target overall. Mavs definitely seem keen on trading up. Whether it be Boston (14+Hayward), Spurs (Demar+Aldridge+11), or Phoenix. I do believe that the Mavs think PHX is the best avenue to move up. The best of both assets among them with Oubre and the #10 pick. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - cow - 11-12-2020 Random: Skip Bayless loves Kelly Oubre. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 12:24 PM)cow Wrote: Random: Skip Bayless loves Kelly Oubre.Hang up the phone Donnie...abort!!! RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - SleepingHero - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 11:33 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: But how is Beverley supposed to improve our clutch offense. Who said anything about improving our clutch offense? I wouldn't be making a deal for Beverly alone in the hopes of him radically impacting our offense. Our offense was never the issue. I see Beverly would improve our defense immensely. He would be able to make key stops that would prevent the games from spiraling out of control. And in this supposed hypothetical, we wouldn't just be adding Beverly, but also one of the best defenders in the NBA in Covington and an up and comer in Oubre. Both of which are better offensive players than Delon Wright, Jackson, Kleber (on the perimeter at least). And while I agree with you the Mavs would be capped. But it wouldn't matter. A Beverly expiring (especially if he proves to be a valuable player) at 14 mil is an easy contract to move. Covington would be even easier to move and the Mavs could even get multiple assets back. Kleber is a valuable asset as well. So is Seth. So while the Mavs would only have about 10 mil in cap space in 21' with this roster, they could at the drop of a hat create 30mil+ by trading Covington and Seth. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1326941411090915329 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - KillerLeft - 11-12-2020 Convington isn't getting moved unless Harden does and they blow it up completely, imo. If/when that happens, the Mavs either don't have enough to get him, or are uninterested. If they thought so much of him, the time to snag him was last year. PJ Tucker, on the other hand, seems like he might be available very soon. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1326943878373658624 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - cow - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 12:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Convington isn't getting moved unless Harden does and they blow it up completely, imo. I'd love Tucker on the team but would give virtually nothing to have him here. He's 35 and unhappy with his contract. Seems like a very short term rental. He also shot Maxi's shoes. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - KillerLeft - 11-12-2020 (11-12-2020, 12:48 PM)cow Wrote: He also shot Maxi's shoes. I lol'd! Yeah, I don't think he's a name to watch for the Mavericks, either. But one of the contenders could probably really use him. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - ClutchDirk - 11-12-2020 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1326945261533458434 https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/1326945003118223360 RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - Scott41theMavs - 11-12-2020 Today is a lot slower in terms of Mavs rumors, and that's fine with me, since it's kind of silly for us to get worked up about stuff that can't happen for another 4-6 days. RE: OFFSEASON: Mavs Trade (Nov 16?) & FA (Nov 20) + Salary Chart | $109.1M cap - StepBackJay - 11-12-2020 So KL is trolling ppl with this Rubio nonsense. Mavs aren't doing that. Also this whole DFS/#18 business makes no sense and until I see a Mavs beat guy or national writer put that out there. Mavs interest in this deal would be Oubre initially, maybe Schroder as well (wouldn't that be amazing)? If Clippers are involved then maybe PatBev is a guy they want. His 2021 salary is a bit of a problem, even with Wright outgoing. The other guy if Clips are involved is Shamet. If you could get Shamet for 18 + Wright that would be amazing. |