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RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - WillE - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:40 PM)Tyler Wrote: Gafford helps a ton. Dallas now has two legit centers. PJ is a little undersized for a PF, but he's a little bigger and definitely more athletic than GWill. So the trades don't immediately solve every problem, but they're a big step forward in the frontcourt.DRAFT COMBINE MEASUREMENTS:
Daniel Gafford
Weight: 237.6 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-9.25
Height with shoes: 6-foot-10.5
Standing reach: 9-foot-2
Hand width: 9.25 inches
Hand length: 9.25 inches
Wingspan: 7-foot-2.25
PJ Washington
Weight: 230.4 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-6.5
Height with shoes: 6-foot-8
Standing reach: 8-foot-10.5
Hand width: 10.25 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 7-foot-2.25
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - KillerLeft - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:43 PM)OBX Maverick Wrote: Also, someone was mentioning that PJ is essentially the same height as GW. However PJ has a wingspan of about 7’3” while GW’s is 6’10”
PJ is not going to be denied at the rim BY THE RIM 3 times in two weeks like Williams was here. Their athletic profiles really don’t compare. I always thought Washington was the better choice, athletically, during our summer debates, I just didn’t expect Williams’ athleticism to be so problematic.
This is a serious upgrade, I am pretty confident of that.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - WillE - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:45 PM)WillE Wrote: DRAFT COMBINE MEASUREMENTS:Grant Williams
Daniel Gafford
Weight: 237.6 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-9.25
Height with shoes: 6-foot-10.5
Standing reach: 9-foot-2
Hand width: 9.25 inches
Hand length: 9.25 inches
Wingspan: 7-foot-2.25
PJ Washington
Weight: 230.4 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-6.5
Height with shoes: 6-foot-8
Standing reach: 8-foot-10.5
Hand width: 10.25 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 7-foot-2.25
Weight: 240.2 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-5.75
Height with shoes: 6-foot-7.5
Standing reach: 8-foot-8.5
Hand width: 10.5 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.75
(02-08-2024, 02:47 PM)WillE Wrote: Grant WilliamsTL,DR: GW is heavy and has big hands.
Weight: 240.2 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-5.75
Height with shoes: 6-foot-7.5
Standing reach: 8-foot-8.5
Hand width: 10.5 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.75
Jason Terry - Jason Terry - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:47 PM)WillE Wrote: Grant WilliamsBottom line: if you have T-Rex arms you better be lights out from 3
Weight: 240.2 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-5.75
Height with shoes: 6-foot-7.5
Standing reach: 8-foot-8.5
Hand width: 10.5 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.75
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:39 PM)omahen Wrote: Not good, if pick swap had to be included. Less and less assets to do something significant.
Mavs technically don't "lose" something in a "swap"
They can still offer that swap in future deals by saying the Mavs get the worst pick of the deal.
RE: Jason Terry - WillE - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:50 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Bottom line: if you have T-Rex arms you better be lights out from 3While there are worse ratios of hight and wingspan, his offense wasn't good enough to keep him.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - omahen - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Mavs technically don't "lose" something in a "swap"
They can still offer that swap in future deals by saying the Mavs get the worst pick of the deal.
But this swap is obviously less valuable than the first one. OKC picks are also likely to be very bad picks for some time, if they manage to keep improving their very talented team
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - Tyler - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:47 PM)WillE Wrote: Grant Williams
Weight: 240.2 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-5.75
Height with shoes: 6-foot-7.5
Standing reach: 8-foot-8.5
Hand width: 10.5 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.75
TL,DR: GW is heavy and has big hands.
And wears lifts.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:47 PM)WillE Wrote: Grant Williams
Weight: 240.2 LBS
Height without shoes: 6-foot-5.75
Height with shoes: 6-foot-7.5
Standing reach: 8-foot-8.5
Hand width: 10.5 inches
Hand length: 9 inches
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.75
TL,DR: GW is heavy and has big hands.
Hope Kammarth is following along with these moves towards big wingspans.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - Okstate819 - 02-08-2024
Trade all the 2nds and THJ for DFS in the next two minutes and pick up Dinwiddie!
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - KillerLeft - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:56 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Hope Kammarth is following along with these moves towards big wingspans.
I spoke with him via email yesterday, actually. He is not following the Mavs at all, and is instead devoting himself to some professional soccer team from Kansas City, believe it or not.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - omahen - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:59 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: Trade all the 2nds and THJ for DFS in the next two minutes and pick up Dinwiddie!
Dinwiddie was traded to Toronto for Schroeder and Thad Young
Jason Terry - Jason Terry - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:59 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: Trade all the 2nds and THJ for DFS in the next two minutes and pick up Dinwiddie!This is my dream as well
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - Okstate819 - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 03:02 PM)omahen Wrote: Dinwiddie was traded to Toronto for Schroeder and Thad Young
Shams reported he is going to get bought out.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - WillE - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 03:03 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: Shams reported he is going to get bought out.Would be a game breaker to add him.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - RoyTarpleysGhost - 02-08-2024
I have no idea how good PJ Washington is. He has talent but he has seemed like a Christian Wood type where the IQ, effort, and other distractions keep him from realizing his potential. Losing the 27 first hurts. Hopefully it works out and he blossoms here.
More importantly, I’ve felt the Mavs are a lot further away from being a title contender than the prevailing thought of let’s wait til the summer and trade all remaining assets/three first rd picks for a guy on the level of Jerami Grant.
I like this path better. Keep adding young talent with upside. TBD if any of the young talent works out.
Luka 24
Gafford 25
PJ 25
Green 23
Omax 21
Hardy 21
Lively 19
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I spoke with him via email yesterday, actually. He is not following the Mavs at all, and is instead devoting himself to some professional soccer team from Kansas City, believe it or not.
Whoa, figured he just left the board but not the Mavs. Wonder how he feels about Sporting KC’s wingspans.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - mvossman - 02-08-2024
Looks like we had to pay 2028 pick swap with OKC. Makes the deal less amazing. It helps that we got good young players on long term deals.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - KillerLeft - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 03:22 PM)mvossman Wrote: Looks like we had to pay 2028 pick swap with OKC. Makes the deal less amazing. It helps that we got good young players on long term deals.
Yeah, the reality of their remaining trade power puts a pretty depressing filter on today's events for me.
RE: TRADE: PJ Washington+ 2 2nds To DAL | G. Williams+ Curry+ 2027 FRP (top 2 protected) - ThisIStheYear - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 02:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I spoke with him via email yesterday, actually. He is not following the Mavs at all, and is instead devoting himself to some professional soccer team from Kansas City, believe it or not.
This is the saddest news! But funny.