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RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob)
Gafford is a pretty good pickup. Really solid NBA Center.
depending on the draft capital sent out (can't imagine its much) this was a nice pickup for sure that will help the Mavs a lot imo.
Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob)
@teambringit Well they've been abysmal in the non Lively minutes... I would not underestimate the impact of this move.
Even Bobby agrees.
Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine)
The Mavericks are in the process of trying to acquire the needed draft compensation to furnish Washington to complete its pending deal to acquire Wizards center Daniel Gafford for Richaun Holmes, league sources say.
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Are they trying to get a 3rd team here?
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Nowitzki Way - 02-08-2024
Super excited about Gafford!
He's a grown up version of Lively. Rim running, rim protection. Seems to be improving his rebounding also.
48 minutes of real center play will be a joy to watch.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
What if the Mavs are trying to get GSW to come in with their 2nds and we take in Wiggins while sending them THJ?
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Okstate819 - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:37 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob)
Gafford is a pretty good pickup. Really solid NBA Center.
depending on the draft capital sent out (can't imagine its much) this was a nice pickup for sure that will help the Mavs a lot imo.
Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob)
@teambringit Well they've been abysmal in the non Lively minutes... I would not underestimate the impact of this move.
Even Bobby agrees.
Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine)
The Mavericks are in the process of trying to acquire the needed draft compensation to furnish Washington to complete its pending deal to acquire Wizards center Daniel Gafford for Richaun Holmes, league sources say.
More NBA from me: http://marcstein.substack.com/
Are they trying to get a 3rd team here?
Have to be. Something else is going on here.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine)
Dallas has pursued Daniel Gafford dating to last season and, after extensive talks with Washington on various Kyle Kuzma scenarios, pivoted to the pursuit of a Gafford trade for a much-needed infusion of size.
More from me: https://marcstein.substack.com/p/my-thursday-nba-trade-season-latest
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - dirkfansince1998 - 02-08-2024
Makes sense. Two 2nds would be a steal. 2027 1st an overpay. Mavs need to find a deal that adds 1-2 2nds or equal value.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - DanSchwartzgan - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:33 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Also means that the Mavs are all in on drop defense. Not exactly a reason to celebrate.
But, you also get a block% that has never been worse than the 94th percentile and an O-Reb% that has never been worse than the 90th percentile the last 4 seasons. Tradeoffs.
I do like Maxi getting minutes at the four (which brings even more size and shot blocking to the floor). We don't have to do THJ at the four any more, but things get crowded between GWill, DJJ, THJ, Green and Exum for the minutes not taken by Lively/Gafford/Maxi up front and Luka/Kyrie in the backcourt. One nice thing about having 10 legitimate rotation players is you can trade 2-3 of them this summer in a consolidation deal for a star and still field a playoff roster.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Jason Terry - 02-08-2024
Hardaway trade coming soon it feels like
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Okstate819 - 02-08-2024
OKC it is. Wonder who we are sending them
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
@nbainsidergoat
Dallas might have something bigger in store with this Gafford deal…
Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine)
The Mavericks, I’m told, are poised to acquire draft compensation from Oklahoma City that will be to routed to Washington to complete the Richaun Holmes-for-Daniel Gafford swap.
Josh Mazur (@MazurFocus)
I’ve heard the Mavs were waiting for one deal to go through before moving on a trade with the Nets but the trade they just made with Washington makes the trade with Brooklyn seem unnecessary.
You never know though.
I love the NBA trade deadline.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - dirkfansince1998 - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:46 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: But, you also get a block% that has never been worse than the 94th percentile and an O-Reb% that has never been worse than the 90th percentile the last 4 seasons. Tradeoffs.
I do like Maxi getting minutes at the four (which brings even more size and shot blocking to the floor). We don't have to do THJ at the four any more, but things get crowded between GWill, DJJ, THJ, Green and Exum for the minutes not taken by Lively/Gafford/Maxi up front and Luka/Kyrie in the backcourt. One nice thing about having 10 legitimate rotation players is you can trade 2-3 of them this summer in a consolidation deal for a star and still field a playoff roster.
Hassan Whiteside would offer the same numbers. Question is if Lively and Gafford can stay on the floor when it matters or if Kleber will close games when the best teams in the league go 5-out or switch hunt.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - DanSchwartzgan - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:47 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: OKC it is. Wonder who we are sending them
Do you add them into this with the Hayward deal and turn our 2027 into multiple other stuff and end up with PJ?
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Mavs2021 - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:45 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Makes sense. Two 2nds would be a steal. 2027 1st an overpay. Mavs need to find a deal that adds 1-2 2nds or equal value.
This sounds reasonable to me
Washington + second round picks (re-routed to Washington) to Dallas
Williams + Curry + top 4 protected 2027 to Charlotte
Doncic/Exum
Irving/Hardy
Green/THJ
Washington/Kleber
Lively/Gafford
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Do you add them into this with the Hayward deal and turn our 2027 into multiple other stuff and end up with PJ?
OOOOOOOOOF
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Okstate819 - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Do you add them into this with the Hayward deal and turn our 2027 into multiple other stuff and end up with PJ?
Very possible. Anybody else notice that Tre Mann and Bertans for Hayward doesnt work. CHA has to take back more salary
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - DanSchwartzgan - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Do you add them into this with the Hayward deal and turn our 2027 into multiple other stuff and end up with PJ?
The reported OKC/Charlotte trade doesn't have enough outgoing from OKC, so something more there.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - SleepingHero - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:57 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: The reported OKC/Charlotte trade doesn't have enough outgoing from OKC, so something more there.
It was already speculated that Poku was included in the deal, but then CHA would have 1 too many guys.
4 way between CHA, DAL, OKC, WAS makes sense.
Is the 2027 worth Gafford AND PJ?
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Scott41theMavs - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:58 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Is the 2027 worth Gafford AND PJ?
Yes, but we'd still better keep Green and OMax.
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - DallasMaverick - 02-08-2024
(02-08-2024, 11:58 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: It was already speculated that Poku was included in the deal, but then CHA would have 1 too many guys.
4 way between CHA, DAL, OKC, WAS makes sense.
Is the 2027 worth Gafford AND PJ?
Gafford and PJ and getting off Holmes contract?
RE: TRADE: Daniel Gafford to DAL | Holmes to WAS - Mavs2021 - 02-08-2024
Bertans coming home maybe.
But yeah feels like the OKC/Charlotte deal will be extended and we get PJ Washington, too.
Also gimme Poku baby.