(11-12-2019, 12:23 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/NBA_Math/status/1194290003150393344

(11-12-2019, 12:29 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: Luka is an Alien, most of the team is super average.

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:29 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: Luka is an Alien, most of the team is super average.

THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:29 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: Luka is an Alien, most of the team is super average.

THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

 We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:29 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: Luka is an Alien, most of the team is super average.

THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

 We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

You keep repeating this arbitrary Christmas time, and just to keep letting Carlisle tinker. Only by Christmas will Santa Carlisle have the rotations set!

The only problem is that the Mavs will have played their 30th game by 12/26/2019. That is over 36% of the season gone. If a coach cannot figure out a rotation of who's the best guys to play with almost half of the season gone, then he should be fired. Its a ridiculous notion to accept that strategy, especially since it's already having an effect on how this team plays.

The Mavs are one of the worst first quarter performers in the entire league by a wide margin. They currently average 27.9ppg on 43% from the field, 35.8% from 3, which puts them 12th in the league at overall scoring, but 24th in FG%. This is also including their 40-25 opener against the Blazers, which is looking like an outlier so far.

The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter. The only reason why the Mavs are 6-4 (and could very easily be 8-2) is because of their incredibly strong 2nd quarters, in which the Mavs score the most points (33.5 per game) while being tied for the best rate in the league (52% FG). This shows that it takes the Mavs at least a quarter to find their rhythm. And its funnily enough its the 2nd quarter lineup with Brunson, Wright, with KP that are scoring all those points. They're +19 in 57 minutes so far this season, the 2nd best 3 man lineup only behind the Brunson, Wright, THJ lineup who are a shockingly +36 in over 72 minutes. Notice a pattern here? Seems like JB and Wright are leading the 2nd quarter charge.

Carlisle has to figure out the rotations by next week, not next month. And this is on top of integrating KP, which is something in my opinion he's also failed at so far early this season. And I'm actually one of the more ardent Carlisle supporters, but this is one his worst coaching jobs in a LONG time, and if it wasn't for his track record here he'd be in the hot seat.

(11-12-2019, 04:01 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:29 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: Luka is an Alien, most of the team is super average.

THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

 We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

You keep repeating this arbitrary Christmas time, and just to keep letting Carlisle tinker. Only by Christmas will Santa Carlisle have the rotations set!

The only problem is that the Mavs will have played their 30th game by 12/26/2019. That is over 36% of the season gone. If a coach cannot figure out a rotation of who's the best guys to play with almost half of the season gone, then he should be fired. Its a ridiculous notion to accept that strategy, especially since it's already having an effect on how this team plays.

The Mavs are one of the worst first quarter performers in the entire league by a wide margin. They currently average 27.9ppg on 43% from the field, 35.8% from 3, which puts them 12th in the league at overall scoring, but 24th in FG%. This is also including their 40-25 opener against the Blazers, which is looking like an outlier so far.

The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter. The only reason why the Mavs are 6-4 (and could very easily be 8-2) is because of their incredibly strong 2nd quarters, in which the Mavs score the most points (33.5 per game) while being tied for the best rate in the league (52% FG). This shows that it takes the Mavs at least a quarter to find their rhythm. And its funnily enough its the 2nd quarter lineup with Brunson, Wright, with KP that are scoring all those points. They're +19 in 57 minutes so far this season, the 2nd best 3 man lineup only behind the Brunson, Wright, THJ lineup who are a shockingly +36 in over 72 minutes. Notice a pattern here? Seems like JB and Wright are leading the 2nd quarter charge.

Carlisle has to figure out the rotations by next week, not next month. And this is on top of integrating KP, which is something in my opinion he's also failed at so far early this season. And I'm actually one of the more ardent Carlisle supporters, but this is one his worst coaching jobs in a LONG time, and if it wasn't for his track record here he'd be in the hot seat.

You get me wrong, I don't agree with Carlisle's approach, I just repeat it because it is what he does every season since he is a Mavs coach. 

I'm not a Carlisle supporter. I just described what I see.

It's a young team that needs defined roles to succeed. You cannot freelance them like he does and expect success. 

That's my opinion.

Carlisle is a counter coach.

He is like a guy playing a video game on random choice in order to learn it all instead of thinking about a strategy.

(11-12-2019, 05:20 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 04:01 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote: THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

 We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

You keep repeating this arbitrary Christmas time, and just to keep letting Carlisle tinker. Only by Christmas will Santa Carlisle have the rotations set!

The only problem is that the Mavs will have played their 30th game by 12/26/2019. That is over 36% of the season gone. If a coach cannot figure out a rotation of who's the best guys to play with almost half of the season gone, then he should be fired. Its a ridiculous notion to accept that strategy, especially since it's already having an effect on how this team plays.

The Mavs are one of the worst first quarter performers in the entire league by a wide margin. They currently average 27.9ppg on 43% from the field, 35.8% from 3, which puts them 12th in the league at overall scoring, but 24th in FG%. This is also including their 40-25 opener against the Blazers, which is looking like an outlier so far.

The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter. The only reason why the Mavs are 6-4 (and could very easily be 8-2) is because of their incredibly strong 2nd quarters, in which the Mavs score the most points (33.5 per game) while being tied for the best rate in the league (52% FG). This shows that it takes the Mavs at least a quarter to find their rhythm. And its funnily enough its the 2nd quarter lineup with Brunson, Wright, with KP that are scoring all those points. They're +19 in 57 minutes so far this season, the 2nd best 3 man lineup only behind the Brunson, Wright, THJ lineup who are a shockingly +36 in over 72 minutes. Notice a pattern here? Seems like JB and Wright are leading the 2nd quarter charge.

Carlisle has to figure out the rotations by next week, not next month. And this is on top of integrating KP, which is something in my opinion he's also failed at so far early this season. And I'm actually one of the more ardent Carlisle supporters, but this is one his worst coaching jobs in a LONG time, and if it wasn't for his track record here he'd be in the hot seat.

You get me wrong, I don't agree with Carlisle's approach, I just repeat it because it is what he does every season since he is a Mavs coach. 

I'm not a Carlisle supporter. I just described what I see.

It's a young team that needs defined roles to succeed. You cannot freelance them like he does and expect success. 

That's my opinion.

Carlisle is a counter coach.

He is like a guy playing a video game on random choice in order to learn it all instead of thinking about a strategy.

Carlisle was featured on the Lowe Post pod today. Said he would like to get a more consistent rotation, but, given the current makeup of the roster, is not sure that's in the offing. Thinks it may be more valuable to be able to make adjustments as needed than to play a consistent rotation. Realizes it's hard on the players, but thinks they have handled it well. Not opposed to going the other direction if warranted.

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter.

(11-12-2019, 05:22 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 05:20 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 04:01 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:  We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

You keep repeating this arbitrary Christmas time, and just to keep letting Carlisle tinker. Only by Christmas will Santa Carlisle have the rotations set!

The only problem is that the Mavs will have played their 30th game by 12/26/2019. That is over 36% of the season gone. If a coach cannot figure out a rotation of who's the best guys to play with almost half of the season gone, then he should be fired. Its a ridiculous notion to accept that strategy, especially since it's already having an effect on how this team plays.

The Mavs are one of the worst first quarter performers in the entire league by a wide margin. They currently average 27.9ppg on 43% from the field, 35.8% from 3, which puts them 12th in the league at overall scoring, but 24th in FG%. This is also including their 40-25 opener against the Blazers, which is looking like an outlier so far.

The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter. The only reason why the Mavs are 6-4 (and could very easily be 8-2) is because of their incredibly strong 2nd quarters, in which the Mavs score the most points (33.5 per game) while being tied for the best rate in the league (52% FG). This shows that it takes the Mavs at least a quarter to find their rhythm. And its funnily enough its the 2nd quarter lineup with Brunson, Wright, with KP that are scoring all those points. They're +19 in 57 minutes so far this season, the 2nd best 3 man lineup only behind the Brunson, Wright, THJ lineup who are a shockingly +36 in over 72 minutes. Notice a pattern here? Seems like JB and Wright are leading the 2nd quarter charge.

Carlisle has to figure out the rotations by next week, not next month. And this is on top of integrating KP, which is something in my opinion he's also failed at so far early this season. And I'm actually one of the more ardent Carlisle supporters, but this is one his worst coaching jobs in a LONG time, and if it wasn't for his track record here he'd be in the hot seat.

You get me wrong, I don't agree with Carlisle's approach, I just repeat it because it is what he does every season since he is a Mavs coach. 

I'm not a Carlisle supporter. I just described what I see.

It's a young team that needs defined roles to succeed. You cannot freelance them like he does and expect success. 

That's my opinion.

Carlisle is a counter coach.

He is like a guy playing a video game on random choice in order to learn it all instead of thinking about a strategy.

Carlisle was featured on the Lowe Post pod today. Said he would like to get a more consistent rotation, but, given the current makeup of the roster, is not sure that's in the offing. Thinks it may be more valuable to be able to make adjustments as needed than to play a consistent rotation. Realizes it's hard on the players, but thinks they have handled it well. Not opposed to going the other direction if warranted.

Hey, good to see you (if you are the original) I recently shared the Lowe Post in the all things Carlisle thread.
Haven't listened to it. I prefer reading over podcasts and videos. 

Thanks for giving that feedback.

(11-12-2019, 05:20 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 04:01 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 03:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:41 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 12:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote: THJ and KP are the clear "anchors" so far this season.

 We have to bear with this until Christmas when Carlisle starts closing in on a rotation.

His philosophy just doesn't work when building a new team. Guys needs consistency. But he is doing it every year. Mad egoistical tinkering.

You keep repeating this arbitrary Christmas time, and just to keep letting Carlisle tinker. Only by Christmas will Santa Carlisle have the rotations set!

The only problem is that the Mavs will have played their 30th game by 12/26/2019. That is over 36% of the season gone. If a coach cannot figure out a rotation of who's the best guys to play with almost half of the season gone, then he should be fired. Its a ridiculous notion to accept that strategy, especially since it's already having an effect on how this team plays.

The Mavs are one of the worst first quarter performers in the entire league by a wide margin. They currently average 27.9ppg on 43% from the field, 35.8% from 3, which puts them 12th in the league at overall scoring, but 24th in FG%. This is also including their 40-25 opener against the Blazers, which is looking like an outlier so far.

The biggest problem is that they've been outscored in 7 of their 10 games in the opening quarter. The only reason why the Mavs are 6-4 (and could very easily be 8-2) is because of their incredibly strong 2nd quarters, in which the Mavs score the most points (33.5 per game) while being tied for the best rate in the league (52% FG). This shows that it takes the Mavs at least a quarter to find their rhythm. And its funnily enough its the 2nd quarter lineup with Brunson, Wright, with KP that are scoring all those points. They're +19 in 57 minutes so far this season, the 2nd best 3 man lineup only behind the Brunson, Wright, THJ lineup who are a shockingly +36 in over 72 minutes. Notice a pattern here? Seems like JB and Wright are leading the 2nd quarter charge.

Carlisle has to figure out the rotations by next week, not next month. And this is on top of integrating KP, which is something in my opinion he's also failed at so far early this season. And I'm actually one of the more ardent Carlisle supporters, but this is one his worst coaching jobs in a LONG time, and if it wasn't for his track record here he'd be in the hot seat.

You get me wrong, I don't agree with Carlisle's approach, I just repeat it because it is what he does every season since he is a Mavs coach. 

I'm not a Carlisle supporter. I just described what I see.

It's a young team that needs defined roles to succeed. You cannot freelance them like he does and expect success. 

That's my opinion.

Carlisle is a counter coach.

He is like a guy playing a video game on random choice in order to learn it all instead of thinking about a strategy.

Carlisle was featured on the Lowe Post pod today. Said he would like to get a more consistent rotation, but, given the current makeup of the roster, is not sure that's in the offing. Thinks it may be more valuable to be able to make adjustments as needed than to play a consistent rotation. Realizes it's hard on the players, but thinks they have handled it well. Not opposed to going the other direction if warranted.

(11-12-2019, 11:50 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: is it time to hit the panic button just a little bit?

(11-13-2019, 12:08 AM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-12-2019, 11:50 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: is it time to hit the panic button just a little bit?

Nah. For me that comes if the Mavs are 13-17 or worse 30 games in. I have long felt that anything around 0.500 ball through 30 games would be great because then you have 50 games to finish the season getting better and making your run for the playoffs. 

To be clear I will be disappointed if the Mavs aren't better than that by quite a bit, but that is just because I see so much promise in this team already.

(11-13-2019, 03:11 PM)matt6715 Wrote: I'm assuming I'll have a beer or 2 thrown on me by the end of this thing

(11-13-2019, 03:11 PM)matt6715 Wrote: I'll be at this game.  Need to come out in the first quarter and hit them in the mouth.  It's gonna be a hostile crowd for sure.  I'm assuming I'll have a beer or 2 thrown on me by the end of this thing