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RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - SleepingHero - 10-21-2021
This was one of the worst losses in a long time.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - Mavs2021 - 10-21-2021
Right. They are without Gallinari and Williams, too. Haha.
Yeah it´s all good. We just need a few more Bullocks and Browns to compete with that Hawks team for the next decade.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - hakeemfaan - 10-21-2021
(10-21-2021, 08:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I miss Carlisle’s offense.
WAY too much Porzingis being forced for my liking, and not nearly enough space out there for Luka/Brunson to cook.
I like this. The over usage of Luka eventually runs its course. I think Kidd is trying to do something which will be better, but the lack of overall talent means there will be nights like these.
Either way eventually you will get exposed, but at least you are not killing Luka this way.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - dirkfansince1998 - 10-21-2021
(10-21-2021, 08:24 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I like this. The over usage of Luka eventually runs its course. I think Kidd is trying to do something which will be better, but the lack of overall talent means there will be nights like these.
Either way eventually you will get exposed, but at least you are not killing Luka this way.
If that was the plan they should have made the necessary roster adjustments. Cannot add more 3&D players. Take the ball out of Luka´s hands and expect them to create.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - HoosierDaddyKid - 10-21-2021
Atlanta is just better.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - wmffl87 - 10-21-2021
(10-21-2021, 08:24 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I like this. The over usage of Luka eventually runs its course. I think Kidd is trying to do something which will be better, but the lack of overall talent means there will be nights like these.
Either way eventually you will get exposed, but at least you are not killing Luka this way.
Talk about stupid and delusional. Hey gets we’re trying to be worse because it’s part of the grand plan
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - VintagePejav2 - 10-21-2021
Fire Kidd. Igor for interim. Trade Brunson.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - Mavs2021 - 10-21-2021
(10-21-2021, 08:30 PM)wmffl87 Wrote: Talk about stupid and delusional. Hey gets we’re trying to be worse because it’s part of the grand plan
No but it exposes what some smart posters have been saying for years. These 110% rotations, minutes, execution and effort diet that the dictator Carlisle dragged out of the players regular season after regular season covered up the lack of overall talent. It is simply unsustainable mentally, which is probably a reason the team turned him out. It didn´t allow for any player development etc. either.
And every year like clock work, we´d get eliminated in the 1st round, cause no matter how superior Carlisle is to the opposing coach, in the play-offs talent wins out.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - hakeemfaan - 10-21-2021
(10-21-2021, 08:27 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: If that was the plan they should have made the necessary roster adjustments. Cannot add more 3&D players. Take the ball out of Luka´s hands and expect them to create.
They cannot change everything overnight. The previous regime did not leave them in a good position. Also there is nothing wrong with 3D players as long as they are talent upgrades. We all said in the off season that we need one more creator. It is not easy to get. So get upgrades whenever you can and be opportunistic when a creator is available.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - ThisIStheYear - 10-21-2021
The Mavs had a very distinctive looking offense last year, its signature being the varying tempos that Luka would play at over the course of a game. In this game, everything was the same speed and the offense didn’t look any different from any other team’s. There was nothing distinctive about it. Maybe, it’s because the Hawks are just really good on defense. We’ll see. But that was as brutal as it gets.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - Kammrath - 10-21-2021
Game Observations
1) Luka is overweight and looks a step slow. Not as bad as the first part of last year, but not in good enough shape. I am becoming seriously concerned about his long term weight. He is the tide that lifts all boats. Without elite Luka (and he MUST be in shape for that) this team will only be average.
2) KP looks MUCH better defensively. He still doesn't have "it" offensively, but I am hoping he can figure it out.
3) DFS needs less minutes. I would like to see Bullock get more of his.
4) The Mavs missed a lot of good looks.
5) I thought the Mavs looked much better than last year defensively in the first half, but just lost heart when they couldn't get buckets in the second half.
6) ATL is damn good and their continuity is really paying off.
7) ATL's defensive closeouts and rotations were incredible AND they have good length and athleticism.
8) I think the NBA will be better by not calling fouls on the non-basketball moves. But I think the refs swallowed their whistles too much at times.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - SwisherPrice - 10-21-2021
Doesn't matter, new HC, new GM...but in the end, Cuban is still here! All they're gonna do is continue to swing for the fences in free agency to try to form a Super Team. Until then, nothing will really change
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-0) @ ATL (0-0) | Oct 21, 6:30pm | Mavs 4.0 pt & 2.5 pt dogs - Chicagojk - 10-21-2021
Tough night.
ATL is really impressive. Just filled with young, athletic shot creators. They got whatever they wanted on offense. In the first half they missed some open looks but got going as the game moved forward. ATL was without 3 rotation players too (if you think Williams is a rotation player). Heck, I even liked ATL rookie in garbage time.
Offense did not look good either. No ball creation with our starting lineup minus Luka.
On to the next game, but tonight was not a good night.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - Chicagojk - 10-21-2021
Reddish reminded me of Jordan Clarkson out there but with a few extra inches and younger. We will see if he can do that consistently. If so, that is another really nice piece.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - VintagePejav2 - 10-21-2021
Disgraceful performance. Major brain drain with haralabob and Rick gone. Shoe-man from Nike and Ason Kidd going to run this thing into the ground.
Thank God the Cowboys don’t suck.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - Mavs2021 - 10-21-2021
If this wasn´t depressing enough, just look at the Mavs 2022/2023 Salary Cap Table on Spotrac.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - Jason Terry - 10-21-2021
Add Bullock and WCS to the starting lineup. DFS and Powell to the bench
Still not good enough
KP still a bad fit. 5 boards and 4 turnovers. The highlight blocks and 3’s don’t hide that he: 1) does not rebound well 2) does not play down low offensively and take advantage of mismatches 3) does not protect the paint on any sort of consistent basis 4) does not pick and roll with luka 5) does not play smart team basketball
It’s the top problem. Mainly because he looks so in shape that there’s no more excuses. He moved well for stretches. Just still looks like the same ole bad fit
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - cow - 10-21-2021
87 points.
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - ItsGoTime - 10-21-2021
Next couple games are against lesser teams, hopefully lesser than we are!
RE: GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ ATL (1-0) | 113-87 loss - loki - 10-21-2021
2019-2020 Mavs: 206 minutes
2020 & 2021 Offseason Additions: 34 minutes