NBA TRADE TALK: TDL over - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL over (/showthread.php?tid=1176) Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
|
RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/status/1491759137927147529 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/status/1491760868303982598 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - DanSchwartzgan - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 07:16 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I have mellowed down on Holmes. I think the main question here is do you need two Powell's (so you can have one of Holmes or Powell on the floor at all times), or is one enough to accomplish what you want to accomplish. I agree with your assessment, but I'm not sure why you've mellowed on the guy you describe. A couple of notes. Holmes has not been as good this season as the last several. He missed games with a right eye laceration and then Covid hit him fairly hard (kind of like Maxi never being fully himself last season). The season before he was 8th in the league in block percent. He was in the 87th percentile for defensive boards and the 97th percentile for TS%. I'm a fan of Powell's game, but as you say, Holmes would be a substantial upgrade. Personally, I'd be a fan of 48 minutes of rim running excellence with 30 of it coming with the defense Holmes brings. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL Feb 10, 2pm | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Chicagojk - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 07:16 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I have mellowed down on Holmes. I have also mellowed on Holmes. He is a good player. But I wonder if we have seen his peak play from a year or two ago. The main reason I mellowed on him is I really like this team when it plays 1 big. KP isn't going anywhere right now and I am perfectly fine with Powell at the backup minutes at the 5. I am just not sure investing resources and $ for another C is the best strategy as this team continues to improve. I just really like the look of the team when they have one big who can rim run and skilled players on the outside. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - omahen - 02-10-2022 (1) Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter: "Harden's hopeful Morey secures trade for him today, but Morey and Sean Marks have yet to become engaged in serious dialogue on a deal. There’s an expectation sides will talk today and possibility of deal remains. Both teams are left measuring the risk-reward of a Harden deal now." / Twitter RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491769365137477634 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1491769672160759810 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1491773337076322312 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - KillerLeft - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 08:12 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Personally, I'd be a fan of 48 minutes of rim running excellence with 30 of it coming with the defense Holmes brings. But if KP is healthy, you can't get that, because as should be abundantly clear, KP won't work with that. He doesn't play the way he did two years ago anymore, in Carlisle's offense, or want to. So, if KP's healthy, you're basically going to have Holmes/Powell fighting over the minutes Powell has now, right? RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/status/1491774877459795971 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - KillerLeft - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 08:14 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: The main reason I mellowed on him is I really like this team when it plays 1 big. KP isn't going anywhere right now and I am perfectly fine with Powell at the backup minutes at the 5. Yeah, this. I can't get around this. I just can't. I DO NOT WANT to go back to two centers playing at once. After seeing how moving Porzingis to the five (and playing him with shooters) has made everything start to look better here, I'm surprised anyone would want that. The only way Holmes makes sense here, imho, is as a Powell replacement, only Powell is far from a major problem lately, and probably wouldn't work in a Holmes deal. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - omahen - 02-10-2022 (1) NBA Central on Twitter: "The Philadelphia 76ers are ‘hopeful’ of a trade package involving James Harden, Patty Mills and Bruce Brown, per @JDumasReports The Brooklyn Nets would like a trade package of Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Matisse Thybulle and Andre Drummond https://t.co/X4f7WYHkif" / Twitter RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Mavs2021 - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 09:06 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, this. I think the argument for a Holmes, Bamba, Nurkic etc. would be that Kleber is a PF, Powell is a small-ball center, and Chriss/Boban/Brown need to be upgraded in case of a Porzingis injury, which is roughly 50% of the time. Ideally for the future you want Porzingis/Powell/Kleber/X/Chriss as your PF/C rotation. Best case that X has the upside to also step into the starting C role, when/if Porzingis is traded. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - omahen - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 09:25 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Best case that X has the upside to also step into the starting C role, when/if Porzingis is traded. Powell is totally fine stepping into emergency starting C role and Chriss is totaly fine emergency back up. I don't see any sense adding another center to this mix. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Mavs2021 - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 09:27 AM)omahen Wrote: Powell is totally fine stepping into emergency starting C role and Chriss is totaly fine emergency back up. I don't see any sense adding another center to this mix. Yeah maybe during the regular season, but you saw what happened in the play-offs, when Porzingis went down in the Bubble. Kleber started and had -9, -25, -23 games. Powell got DNPs unplayable. We paid Boban 3.5M/WCS 4.1M. Those salaries can be consolidate to 10.0M for a better insurance center. It´s obviously not the end of our roster construction, but it should be part of the discussion. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - mvossman - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 09:25 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I think the argument for a Holmes, Bamba, Nurkic etc. would be that Kleber is a PF, Powell is a small-ball center, and Chriss/Boban/Brown need to be upgraded in case of a Porzingis injury, which is roughly 50% of the time. Holmes and Nurkic are starting centers and will cost that. They don't make sense as a 4th big. Also, DFS is part of the big rotation for "small ball" lineups, and I would argue our best lineup probably has DFS as PF. We really wouldn't need anything more except that KP and Maxi are struggling to stay healthy, but I don't think it makes sense to spend for a starting center to fill that role. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - dirkfansince1998 - 02-10-2022 (02-10-2022, 09:45 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Yeah maybe during the regular season, but you saw what happened in the play-offs, when Porzingis went down in the Bubble. Kleber started and had -9, -25, -23 games. Powell got DNPs unplayable. Kleber wasn´t playing a bigmen role in those games. For the most part he was guarding Kawhi. KP, Powell or any other big the Mavs could sign/trade for isn´t going to do a better job on the perimeter. If that´s what you want to improve the Mavs should look for a big wing. RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/status/1491792025221361678 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/status/1491792436863008768 RE: NBA TRADE TALK: TDL 2pm TODAY | "big names available" | "lot of movement" - Kammrath - 02-10-2022 https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491792479003107334 |