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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - VintagePejav2 - 08-01-2021
Was not aware that Arenas had become a provocateur in his post-playing years. Was just posting what I thought was a funny video contained in a tweet.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Hogmelon - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 09:15 AM)Paul Gasol Wrote: You all make me sick! Throwing around words like “creative” and “clever thinking” to describe OUR front office… That’s not the Mavericks way, damn it! Where’s your sense of loyalty and tradition? That’s not who we are. That’s not what we represent. It’s just not right, damn it!
Donnie Nelson would be spinning in his grave if he could read all this talk of “good use of cap space”…
Well I for one reject it!
“We love our boys in blue” forever!!
"I refuse to speak of disgusting things, because they disgust me! You understand, boy?" [Norma Bates, Psycho, 1960]
https://media.giphy.com/media/9tovFud6tYz04/giphy.gif
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA leader for Lowry - mvossman - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 07:54 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Yeah, I'm definitely trying to solve all of their problems at once. Arcidiacono is fully non-guaranteed, so I think you can drop that part of the deal. But Sato is super cost effective for a year and not so old that you can't bring him back if you'd like. To your point, I would easily trade JRich for him straight up. If you add Moses and Dosunmu (an Excel guy) to that deal, that is some pretty clever work.
Doing it this way and bringing back THJ keeps you over the cap and you have the Full MLE and BAE at that point. It would probably be nice to add a little front court help. Sterling Brown at the BAE makes sense also. If you go this route, there isn't a limit on what you can pay THJ.
However, if you can get Hardaway for something more reasonable (say $14mm), and you don't bring back Willie, you'd have $11.4mm to spend in the front court. Bump that a bit if you can offload Burke. So you don't have to use the TPE necessarily (though it doesn't really make a difference as it is the same money in the end). One advantage of the TPE is Chicago has to decide on Sato today. So, the TPE would make that deal legal right now.
Holmes/Powell/Moses
KP/Maxi/Bey
DFS/Sterling/Green
THJ/Sato/Dosunmu
Luka/Brunson/Terry
Do we need the TPE to make it legal, or can we simply trade for him with air? If we do use the TPE now, can we decide to a make it cap space later?
Otherwise, I don't see the value of the TPE. As you mentioned, a reasonable re-sign for THJ plus taking Sato leaves us with more cap space than the MLE (which is particularly valuable for outbidding all of the MLE teams). Plus we will have the room to replace WCS (possibly with WCS if nobody better).
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - omahen - 08-01-2021
Will the Heat operate under the cap?
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421898225804587008
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Tyler - 08-01-2021
Interesting. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1421899003537633282
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Chicagojk - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:21 PM)omahen Wrote: Will the Heat operate under the cap?
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421898225804587008
and they are picking up Dragic contract, so what does this mean? I expected them to not pick up and resign him if other moves did not work out.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Tyler - 08-01-2021
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421899889257103364
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - dirkfansince1998 - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:23 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: and they are picking up Dragic contract, so what does this mean? I expected them to not pick up and resign him if other moves did not work out.
Sign&trade?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - ItsGoTime - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Nah.We are no strangers to hyperbole to make a point here. However, I did catch him saying the YMCA team took HIM to the playoffs. Not really sure how that works out or what it says about him and his team, I’ll just assume he he couldn’t figure out what he actually wanted to say.
Are the Mavs short on talent compared to other NBA playoff teams? Obviously.
Are they a "YMCA team?" Obviously not.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - mvossman - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:26 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Sign&trade?
Can't imagine Toronto wants Dragic on that contract. Strange.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Tyler - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:26 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421899889257103364
I'm not so sure about the claim that they can make other moves to make space to sign Lowry outright. If that's the plan, the much easier path was to just let Dragic go. But a S&T including Dragic (perhaps to Toronto, or maybe to a 3rd team) could still be in the table.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - ClutchDirk - 08-01-2021
Heating up now...
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Kammrath - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:26 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421899889257103364
It's weird, suddenly being a Pat Riley fan.
Go Pat, go!
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - ItsGoTime - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Interesting. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1421899003537633282Great… another year of Mavs fans trying to figure out how to get Dragic here. Then he goes to another destination spot when he hits FA.
#triggered
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Kammrath - 08-01-2021
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1421900562233131012
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - KillerLeft - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Interesting. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1421899003537633282
Is it naive of me to wonder whether this means Miami has been informed that they're out on Lowry? Everyone else is assuming that this is just a step in their plan, but I wonder if it's more of a pivot to the next plan.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Kammrath - 08-01-2021
It is interesting.....
Hollinger & Stein have been connecting Lowry to DAL for WEEKS at almost every turn.
Woj & Shams & Lowe have not.....
Wonder what the source difference is between these guys?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Kammrath - 08-01-2021
![[Image: E7ucoReXoAslPnY?format=jpg&name=large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7ucoReXoAslPnY?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1421902328190414850
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - Kammrath - 08-01-2021
https://twitter.com/WashedMavsBlog/status/1421902488266018819
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: MIA (& NOP?) leader for Lowry | CHI for Lonzo - VintagePejav2 - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 01:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Is it naive of me to wonder whether this means Miami has been informed that they're out on Lowry? Everyone else is assuming that this is just a step in their plan, but I wonder if it's more of a pivot to the next plan.
I read (USA Today) that Toronto is not interested in a sign-and-trade. So maybe Miami thinks a desperate team with cap space would give them a small asset for a year of Dragic. I don’t really know. Personally I think Miami is going to try to keep the powder dry for 2022 free agents and their offer to Lowry is essentially a 1 year deal.