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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1425436095790059521


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - BasketballJones41 - 08-11-2021

Honestly I’d prefer French Frank over DSJ


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Scott41theMavs - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 02:08 PM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: Honestly I’d prefer French Frank over DSJ

I'd prefer they do something...


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Mavs2021 - 08-11-2021

So the Pistons have re-signed multiple guards now (surprisingly Cory Joseph and McGruder, too) and their roster looks like this now....


PG/SG Cade Cunningham
PG/SG Killian Hayes
SG/SF Saddiq Bey
SG/SF Josh Jackson



PG Frank Jackson
PG Cory Joseph
PG Saban Lee
SG Rodney McGruder


I´d love to do Burke + 2nd rounder (or Terry) + $6M in cash for Diallo. Make it happen, Duffy. Cool


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - omahen - 08-11-2021

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1425544038548086785


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - TXBamanut - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 10:08 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Was that a Eddie Najera sighting??

Why yes, it was?  That was also Shawn Marion guarding him...so that would probably make Dirk technically just turned 21 in June, not 20 like I originally stated.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Scott41theMavs - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 02:59 PM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1425544038548086785

Seems to indicate that the three-way is not a thing...


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1425553663934693380


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - KillerLeft - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 01:30 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1425524533021220867

Don't kill me, but if THIS dude still has it, HE could help the Mavs.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 05:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Don't kill me, but if THIS dude still has it, HE could help the Mavs.


Do you have any idea what his WINGSPAN is?!?! Wink


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

https://twitter.com/HoopsRumors/status/1425587242865725450


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Jmaciscool - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 05:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Don't kill me, but if THIS dude still has it, HE could help the Mavs.

I think you're right, but I don't think he has it anymore.  But I'd still take doesn't-have-it-anymore-Isaiah-Thomas over Burke.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL interested @ $11M per? - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1425630515923759105


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Tyler - 08-11-2021

Yes, Chicago is in a strong position to bargain for now to extract as much as they can. But the moment Markkanen gives up and signs his QO he becomes untradeable and Chicago will get nothing back at all when he inevitably leaves next summer for nothing. Maybe they're fine with that for one more year of a guy they don't even like, but I doubt it. So I think all sides should be motivated to find a deal before the season starts. Right now it's just a waiting game to see who blinks first.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 09:18 PM)Tyler Wrote: Right now it's just a waiting game to see who blinks first.


All three parties are in a strong position and yet all are beholden to each other.

  • LM has leverage because he can sign the QO, but he doesn't really want to get stuck on a one year deal in CHI.
  • DAL has leverage because CHI could lose LM for nothing, but if they don't bid high enough this could be their only shot at LM.
  • CHI has leverage because there is no one who can pay LM a lot of money, but if their asking price is too high they will lose this asset for absolutely nothing.
I am confident in Nico here. He has already earned my trust as a deal maker. 

#TheNicotiator


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Mavs2021 - 08-11-2021

You know if Markkanen signs for the full four years 47/4, maybe I do give up a lottery protected first.

Do we really think Markkanen at $12M per year is that much worse of a trade asset than Aaron Gordon at $17M? How much worse?

Orlando got RJ Hampton (24th pick) and a top 4 protected 2023 pick from Chicago. So you can likely get most of the pick value back for Markkanen.

I think this whole pick thing is BS or they really delusional enough to think they can get an unprotected 1st. I think they want Kleber and Mavs are only offering Powell + WCS, Terry and/or a 2nd round pick.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 09:55 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You know if Markkanen signs for the full four years 47/4, maybe I do give up a lottery protected first.


I can see the logic here. 

My gut is to resist giving up a 1st when CHI has its back against a wall....but if the contract with LM is that good, I don't hate it.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - F Gump - 08-11-2021

When we hear from Stein that the Dallas Mavericks are definitely interested in Markkanen and that they would love to get him, my ears perk up because it's Stein --- but then it's hard to know what definitely interested and love mean in practical terms that define what they might be willing to do to get him.

We can easily assume they would love to get him for free, and would hate him if it cost a max contract, 2 1st rounders, and players like DFS, Kleber, and more.

But in that huge in between, where are they? That issue drives what they might offer. Do they have a significant need for him, as to a role and minutes, how would that work, and why are they paying more to add yet another big? Other than the fact that he is talented and young and has some skill on offense, I'm not sure I get this.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkannen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Kammrath - 08-11-2021

(08-11-2021, 10:04 PM)F Gump Wrote: Do they have a significant need for him, as to a role and minutes, how would that work, and why are they paying more to add yet another big? Other than the fact that he is talented and young and has some skill on offense, I'm not sure I get this.


1) One of the things we have learned so far about how Nico wants to build this team around Luka is with shooting. RB and SB both shot over 40% from three last year. So did LM. So I think the primary draw is shooting (and youth like you said).

2) I think it signals that either DP or Maxi are outgoing in a deal for LM OR that the Mavs are planning some other trade(s) that would shuffle the big man deck. No way the Mavs add another big without at least one or two outgoing some way, some how.