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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Tyler - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:17 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1422728090959089664?s=21
Hmm... Knowing that Masai likes negotiating through the media, this sounds like something he might put out there to drive up the price with a different team.
I wonder which teams Toronto has been most actively talking to lately?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Kammrath - 08-03-2021
RE: Dragic Trade
If nothing else, the Mavs not willing to put TT in that trade must mean the new management really likes what they have seen from him and where he is at personally. Very encouraging. Excited to seem him play next week.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Kammrath - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Hmm... Knowing that Masai likes negotiating through the media, this sounds like something he might put out there to drive up the price with a different team.
I wonder which teams Toronto has been most actively talking to lately?
![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media1.giphy.com/media/l3vRjLuToXRRGw1y0/giphy.gif)
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - RedFlag41 - 08-03-2021
Is it correct to say that, except possible trade scenarios, the Mavs only have the 10.5 Million trade exception that they can use to acquire another player with an existing contract which fits in the exception?
What are the possible scenarios involving that trade exception?
Who are the players who can fit in that trade exception?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:25 PM)RedFlag41 Wrote: Is it correct to say that, except possible trade scenarios, the Mavs only have the 10.5 Million trade exception that they can use to acquire another player with an existing contract which fits in the exception?
What are the possible scenarios involving that trade exception?
Who are the players who can fit in that trade exception?
I could be wrong, but I believe they might still have a cap hold or two, like Reddick's, for example.
If they don't mind raising the salary commitment, I think they can sign-and-trade him for something small if they want, and if any team wants him at a contract higher than the minimum, of course. I don't fully understand what causes teams to be temporarily hard-capped though, so this might be way wrong.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Tyler - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:25 PM)RedFlag41 Wrote: Who are the players who can fit in that trade exception?
Any current free agent, or anyone Zion or below here: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cap-hit/
Personally, I'd take Zion into the TPE and call it a day.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - cjeter24 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: Markanen isn't a feasible target. He can get 1 yr 9M anytime he wants it, and then be UFA next summer. Mavs don't have an avenue to put an offer on the table that would entice him.
I would think the offer that entices him is a 3 or 4 year deal starting at a salary that fits in the TE.
The report is he wants to come to Dallas. So he's got to sacrifice to come here...because he doesn't fit as a starter.
Does anyone really want to pay Lauri. He's solid... But I don't think he's a winning starter.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - cjeter24 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:17 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1422728090959089664?s=21
Random... I've suggested a few times that I think Fox could be moved at some point from Sacramento based off their moves.
I keep coming back to a Siakam, KP, Fox swap around with Siakam to Sacramento, KP to Toronto, and Fox to Dallas.
Obviously Dallas has to give up alot more. But it could make sense for all sides based on current roster constructions and whatever the heck is going on with Siakam and Toronto.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:33 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I keep coming back to a Siakam, KP, Fox swap around with Siakam to Sacramento, KP to Toronto, and Fox to Dallas.
I like the idea, but I'd still rather have Siakam, personally.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Tyler - 08-03-2021
Luka and Fox would be crazy fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsWTY5Al90
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:38 PM)Tyler Wrote: Luka and Fox would be crazy fun.
Think so?
I think he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball in his hands. I'm really down on him, though, maybe even biased.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - scorched03 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:04 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: List of remaining free agents that I have interest in:
Guards:
George Hill
Lou Williams
Victor Oladipo
Danny Green
Reggie Jackson
Brynn Forbes
Reddick (if he wants to return)
Avery Bradley
Forwards:
Justise Winslow
Paul Milsap
Kelly Oubre
Josh Hart
Lauri Markknanen
John Collins
Centers:
Enes Kanter
Aron Baynes (Should the Raps waive him)
Demarcus Cousins
Willy Hernangomez
bold are my picks. may as well go young and get the highest upside players to fit in with luka's timeframe.
is it sad i'd want any of the guards over burke? and most of the forwards over powell
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - cjeter24 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I like the idea, but I'd still rather have Siakam, personally.
If you are Toronto or Dallas?
Obviously KP is the lesser piece of all that. So again, Dallas sends more.
But KP rehabbing his image on a clearly rebuilding team in Toronto (with great coaching and front office) plus assets is a very good haul for Siakam.
I think Siakam is in the same tier as KP when healthy and getting legit assets too? That's a good deal.
Brunson and Green would logically go to Toronto too. Probably a future 1st, etc to Sacramento.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:42 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: If you are Toronto or Dallas?
Either.
But, in that particular 3-way, I'll grant you that Fox doesn't make a ton of sense next to VanVleet.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - cjeter24 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:39 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Think so?
I think he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball in his hands. I'm really down on him, though, maybe even biased.
interesting. He definitely needs some work without the ball. Buuuuuuuut
Consider what he's had to work with in Sacramento. Until Haliburton the playmaking was also lacking. Coaching has been all over the place, roster has been bad, etc.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - audiosway - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 07:52 PM)Kammrath Wrote: No! Holmes to DAL!
Did you guys not see this one yesterday?
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422392448739946527
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - Kammrath - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:48 PM)audiosway Wrote: Did you guys not see this one yesterday?
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422392448739946527
The actual money is $46M and apparently Holmes has removed his tweet about going back to SAC.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:44 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: interesting. He definitely needs some work without the ball. Buuuuuuuut
Consider what he's had to work with in Sacramento. Until Haliburton the playmaking was also lacking. Coaching has been all over the place, roster has been bad, etc.
All true. All valid. And, I love speed. I really wanted the Mavs to land him in the draft that year and was hoping he'd slide.
I think I'm just done with guards and forwards who can't shoot.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - VintagePejav2 - 08-03-2021
Big one off the board:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422736774623895554?s=21
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: ATL offers JC 5 yr/$125M deal - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 08:22 PM)Kammrath Wrote: RE: Dragic Trade
If nothing else, the Mavs not willing to put TT in that trade must mean the new management really likes what they have seen from him and where he is at personally. Very encouraging. Excited to seem him play next week.
Or maybe Toronto wants Josh Green.