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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - fifteenth - 08-02-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:56 PM)Jommybone Wrote: Only now that you’re quoting me.
But Harrell is supposedly unwanted and fits our TPE, fyi.
Hmm. Not sure we want him. Can we get anything else out of this 4-way?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-02-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:40 PM)SamStetz Wrote: We did just sign 2 potential DFS replacements...
![[Image: 200w.gif?cid=82a1493bf3z4qc0dovj8u9bg3zd...w.gif&ct=g]](https://media1.giphy.com/media/y6dyjA5vmkUgw/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bf3z4qc0dovj8u9bg3zd539aobt3u84h9dg9pskeo&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
DFS is Mavs royalty.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Scott41theMavs - 08-03-2021
Re: Powell in the Collins trade: okay, but I hope that the Raps don't do something else in the meantime, we lose out on Collins, and are stuck with the Powell Old Maid.
Also, if we forego Dragic, what's the backup plan for a playmaker? Still don't have one.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:59 PM)cow Wrote: DFS is Mavs royalty.
![[Image: tenor.gif]](https://media.tenor.com/images/3856d1032089d19259cf0fc6f4bb8d76/tenor.gif)
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - fifteenth - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:58 PM)Jommybone Wrote: Trying to figure out a Beal/Smart/KP swap that could allow the Mavs to add the pieces of a Collins or Dragic deal. But this kind of complexity is above my pay grade.
Mine too, but it sounds interesting
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:59 PM)cow Wrote:If it were up to me DFS would sign his extension tomorrow so he couldn’t be traded for 6 months
DFS is Mavs royalty.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Scott41theMavs - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:59 PM)cow Wrote:
DFS is Mavs royalty.
"DFS replacement" is an oxymoron for a true Mavs fan.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Jommybone - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 11:59 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Hmm. Not sure we want him. Can we get anything else out of this 4-way?
Right, we don’t want him. Taking him on would be facilitating Beal to Boston in a way that helps Washington find the money for Dinwidde. They have to believe they can find it somewhere.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:00 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Re: Powell in the Collins trade: okay, but I hope that the Raps don't do something else in the meantime, we lose out on Collins, and are stuck with the Powell Old Maid.
Also, if we forego Dragic, what's the backup plan for a playmaker? Still don't have one.
I guess the thinking is that it's better to live with the hope of another year of Luka and the shooters, followed by Brunson, if/when you have the chance to add a guy like Collins.
But, yeah...it's probably going to be Dragic.
We actually don't even know that the Mavs view Collins as a max-worthy player, at this point. We just think we know that they had some level of interest in him.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:00 AM)SamStetz Wrote: If it were up to me DFS would sign his extension tomorrow so he couldn’t be traded for 6 months
![[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=15133346]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/714305bab62625a16fd2a17340ad06f3/tenor.gif?itemid=15133346)
Seriously if we resign WCS and Boban, pay THJ, don't put on offer in to GodKing THT and trade DFS...I'm taking KillerLeft's ball and going home.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:03 AM)cow Wrote:Hahahah I would be very disappointed if we end the offseason without a DFS extension
Seriously if we resign WCS and Boban, pay THJ, don't put on offer in to GodKing THT and trade DFS...I'm taking KillerLeft's ball and going home.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-03-2021
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422421166891880463
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:13 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422421166891880463
Another minimum signing for a contender.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-03-2021
Just thinking out loud for all you John Collins lovers.
-Pels gave up a FRP for the Graham deal.
-We need to tip NY to remove the protections from 2023.
-We think Brunson is more valuable than Robinson.
-Our Pu Pu platter including Maxi to Atlanta might look more attractive with '25 & '27 attached.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:20 AM)cow Wrote: Just thinking out loud for all you John Collins lovers.I’m not a fan of trading away 25 and 27 for Collins as well as our bench (I’m keeping DFS, but I understand why he could be included). I’d offer them a swap and a second rounder, the alternative is they figure out Collins and we move on with Dragic and our 10.9M TPE to find a PF
-Pels gave up a FRP for the Graham deal.
-We need to tip NY to remove the protections from 2023.
-We think Brunson is more valuable than Robinson.
-Our Pu Pu platter including Maxi to Atlanta might look more attractive with '25 & '27 attached.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:24 AM)SamStetz Wrote: I’m not a fan of trading away 25 and 27 for Collins as well as our bench (I’m keeping DFS, but I understand why he could be included). I’d offer them a swap and a second rounder, the alternative is they figure out Collins and we move on with Dragic and our 10.9M TPE to find a PF
Are you including one or none of '25 & '27?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - F Gump - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 10:03 PM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422392448739946527
That's a deal for the Early Bird amount. It's probably only about $48M in hard salary, with salary starting at about $10.5M, with another $7M in performance bonuses or trade kicker (if he is ever traded).
I got lots of grief for saying it was unlikely to take 16M/18M/20M in cap room to get Holmes if you wanted him, but I saw the potential for this outcome and talked about it all along. You're welcome.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:29 AM)cow Wrote: Are you including one or none of '25 & '27?I do what I can to include none...just offer 1st round swap(s) instead since those can be 2022 and 2024.
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:34 AM)F Gump Wrote: That's a deal for the Early Bird amount. It's probably only about $48M in hard salary, with salary starting at about $10.5M, with another $7M in performance bonuses or trade kicker (if he is ever traded).
I got lots of grief for saying it was unlikely to take 16M/18M/20M in cap room to get Holmes if you wanted him, but I saw the potential for this outcome and talked about it all along. You're welcome.
Any guesses for Tim's performance bonuses?
RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - KillerLeft - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 12:34 AM)F Gump Wrote: That's a deal for the Early Bird amount. It's probably only about $48M in hard salary, with salary starting at about $10.5M, with another $7M in performance bonuses or trade kicker (if he is ever traded).
I got lots of grief for saying it was unlikely to take 16M/18M/20M in cap room to get Holmes if you wanted him, but I saw the potential for this outcome and talked about it all along. You're welcome.
I think it's a good deal, and yep, you were right!
I just don't think he works with Porzingis, that's all.