2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" (/showthread.php?tid=1072) Pages:
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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - ClutchDirk - 07-20-2021 (07-20-2021, 08:03 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: Love this idea... And dare I say we are in agreement in the don't make a move that makes a negative asset. Start planning the thing you aren't supposed to plan until the final game has been played... RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - cjeter24 - 07-20-2021 (07-20-2021, 06:23 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Don’t know if this is good news or bad news, but interesting info from Chad Ford on today’s Locked on Mav’s Podcast. Conversation is about Kidd’s past desires to have an oversized input on personnel decisions: You stealing posts from me on Discord? I posted something similar this afternoon ha RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - ClutchDirk - 07-20-2021 Time to start tampering now... RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Mavs2021 - 07-21-2021 (07-20-2021, 05:08 PM)mvossman Wrote: The goal is to land one of the "big fish", but you may not be able to get any here. If they can't get any of the big guys, then Powell is probably the best option in the next tier. I would have no problem spending 4/80 on him (probably go 4/90 if I had to). If we win an NBA title while paying HALF of our cap to KP and Powell as #2 and #3 options, then Luka is the best player of all time. Wasn´t Norman Powell just in Portland? With Dame, McCollum, Covington and Nurkic they lost to a Murray-less Nuggets team in the first round? That did happen, right? So now the idea is to make him the 2nd best player on the Mavs , which is basically what THJ (sadly) was in the play-offs. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Tyler - 07-21-2021 (07-20-2021, 07:05 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: This happened once before, though I can’t remember the guy’s name…he didn’t last very long So following history, Oladipo signs a 1-year deal in Dallas and is packaged at the deadline with a second-year player and another expiring for an impending max-level RFA and an underrated wing scorer? I can work with that. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - DanSchwartzgan - 07-21-2021 (07-20-2021, 09:00 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: You stealing posts from me on Discord? I posted something similar this afternoon ha Great minds? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - DanSchwartzgan - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 12:28 AM)Tyler Wrote: So following history, Oladipo signs a 1-year deal in Dallas and is packaged at the deadline with a second-year player and another expiring for an impending max-level RFA and an underrated wing scorer? I can work with that. I remembered the name finally...John Jenkins. He left Duffy just before signing with Dallas. BTW, not only is Oladipo a Schwartz guy now, he's also a Jordan Brand guy. Might as well pencil this one in. I suspect he'd be traded here, if it happens, to maintain his Bird Rights. Could be into space or could be for a player (like the JRich deals we've been discussing). Makes some sense given our history. Big risk, big upside on a splashy name with injury issues. We wrote the book on that. But, if done right, is really just preserving cap room. Done right equals something short, as you suggest, or something we can get out of if he's injured. Does Miami want JRich back? If not, this is a partnership between Duffy finding a third team where JRich has a shot at getting a good deal a year from now and Schwartz getting Oladipo here on a trade match (I guess it is conceivable THJ is the outgoing to Miami also). In his SG piece for The Athletic, Hollinger had him as the 5th ranked SG behind Danny Green, Fournier, N. Powell and THJ (in that order): Tier 3: Midlevel guys 5. Victor Oladipo, Heat: $10,984,520 Victor Oladipo underwent surgery for a torn quadriceps in May, which is a pretty serious injury, and it’s unlikely he’ll be ready to play at the start of the season. He also has struggled offensively since originally injuring the quad in January 2019, which has dragged down some of the former All-Star’s value. However, there is one really interesting angle here available to Miami, and only Miami: The Heat could re-sign him to a one-year deal for the room exception this year (enabling the Heat to use cap space on other players) and then fork out a bigger multi-year contract a year from now. The Heat would have full Bird rights and would have exhausted their cap room by then, so the only implications for going big on Oladipo in 2022 would be the luxury tax (easy for us to say). Oladipo is only 29, but with his injury history, any long-term deal is a risk. Overall, this makes him one of this summer’s most fascinating free agents; you could tell me virtually any number for his contract and I wouldn’t be surprised. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Kammrath - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 06:42 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Victor Oladipo RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Branduil - 07-21-2021 If it's just trading for Oladipo on a minimal 1-year deal while getting his bird rights that's the definition of low-risk I guess, but the Mavs would obviously need to make more moves this offseason than just that. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - ItsGoTime - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 08:13 AM)Branduil Wrote: If it's just trading for Oladipo on a minimal 1-year deal while getting his bird rights that's the definition of low-risk I guess, but the Mavs would obviously need to make more moves this offseason than just that.If he's going for 1-2 years (second year either TO or $5M guaranteed) at around MLE money, I'd add him to my list. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Okstate819 - 07-21-2021 To piggyback off Locked on Mavs from this morning, apparently Kidd has been enamored with Excel clients in the past. Here are some notable Excel clients. Tyler Herro Marvin Bagley John Collins Harry Giles Brandon Ingram Malik Monk Nikola Jokic Jeremy Lamb CJ McCollum Khris Middleton Kelly Olynk Dwight Powell Kemba Walker Kevin Love Victor Oladipo RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - ItsGoTime - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 09:02 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: Dwight PowellDoes this mean we are not trading him? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Okstate819 - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 09:16 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Does this mean we are not trading him? Considering the last two Dwight contracts were basically favors to Excel, I would think they owe us one at this point. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - ItsGoTime - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 09:29 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: Considering the last two Dwight contracts were basically favors to Excel, I would think they owe us one at this point.Ya, but he is now a JKidd guy (on top of being a MC guy because he's still trying to win the Rondo trade), so is trading him even an option now???? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Chicagojk - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 06:42 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I remembered the name finally...John Jenkins. He left Duffy just before signing with Dallas. BTW, not only is Oladipo a Schwartz guy now, he's also a Jordan Brand guy. Might as well pencil this one in. Oladipo is an interesting buy low candidate. I have no idea how good he can recover from his injury (injuries). He looked to be in good shape last year, but I did not really see the athleticism he had a few years ago, so that is concerning. My biggest issue with Oladipo is Dallas probably spends their cap room on a 2/3 type player. If they do, Oladipo is probably redundant and also blocks minutes for Green to develop. If you could identify a 3/4 type of player, Oladpio could be a swing for the fence low cost gamble. I am having trouble identifying that 3/4 player unless you think Collins is a legit option. That 3/4 player would need to be a top 3 player on our team, so some of the solid guys are not my real focus. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - SleepingHero - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 07:40 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Victor Oladipo I mean is Oladipo that bad of a plan for a 1 year MLE prove it deal...? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Kammrath - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 01:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I mean is Oladipo that bad of a plan for a 1 year MLE prove it deal...? I personally think so. I think there is a 0% chance he is a legit NBA player again. But that is just my opinion and I am not a doctor, nor have I seen the details of his medicals. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - Scott41theMavs - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 01:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I mean is Oladipo that bad of a plan for a 1 year MLE prove it deal...? Yes, because he eats our MLE and doesn't allow us to spend it on another player. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - cow - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 01:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I mean is Oladipo that bad of a plan for a 1 year MLE prove it deal...? I've been anti-Dipo, but I'd be okay with this. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL, MIA, SAS, MIN interested in John Collins | CHI, LAC in Lonzo - chaparral - 07-21-2021 (07-21-2021, 09:02 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: To piggyback off Locked on Mavs from this morning, apparently Kidd has been enamored with Excel clients in the past. Here are some notable Excel clients. Plan Jokic 2023... |