2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" (/showthread.php?tid=1072) Pages:
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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SkenfromLMF - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:11 PM)SamStetz Wrote: Tough question for our cap experts...Collins is a challenge S&T cause of BYC, but could Dallas trade Maxi + DP + Burke (and/or WCS) for Collins (on a max) + LouWill for a salary that fits the $10.9M TPE that would make the trade legal? What would LouWill's salary look like? Lou Williams at 3 years starting at 10.9 would total $34.335 mil with max raises John Collins at the Max would be 28.1035 to start; so Dallas would need to trade 22.403 million to make the trade legal and if Lou doesn't have BYC issues it would be a pretty easy fit. IMO the hard part would be coming up with $22.5 million in tradable salary from Dallas, especially if 15 milllion is kept available to acquire Goran in trade. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Tyler - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:43 PM)Mavs03 Wrote: Who would be our backup PF and C? I was thinking more about trade matching than roster building. There's only so many ways to do it with the contracts available. But to answer your question, I imagine Collins/KP would start, Bobi/Moses (and possibly Onu) would get plenty of minutes at center, guys like DFS would play the 4 in smaller lineups. And with several players going out there would be more roster spots for vet mins or someone brought in using the TPE. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Mavs03 - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:47 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: that's your worry if we sign collins? lol Trust me. I would throw a parade if we got Collins. I've advocated for him to be on our team for a while. But we would need depth at our PF and C position if we give up Maxi, Powell, and WCS. I'm assuming KP will rest on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. I think Moses Brown could fill the backup C position. But I would love to acquire Markkanen as our backup 4/stretch 5. (08-02-2021, 10:52 PM)Tyler Wrote: I was thinking more about trade matching than roster building. There's only so many ways to do it with the contracts available. I know. Love the trade proposal. Would be thrilled if we could get Collins. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Tyler - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:35 PM)Tyler Wrote: It's not easy, but I don't think it has to be that complicated. BTW, looking at the numbers again I think Burke would also work in place of WCS. (Which probably makes more sense.) RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - AgGiE1991 - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/ProCityHoops/status/1422402348979208192 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Branduil - 08-02-2021 Reggie Jackson and Oladipo are the free agents I would say are potential fits, although not sure how we get them now unless Bullock goes into the TPE. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:35 PM)Tyler Wrote: Collins I'm throwing a parade for Nico if he pulls JC off. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - dirkfansince1998 - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 11:01 PM)Branduil Wrote: Reggie Jackson and Oladipo are the free agents I would say are potential fits, although not sure how we get them now unless Bullock goes into the TPE. As of now the Mavs don´t even have a roster spot for any of them. Priority right now should be the frount court mess. No team needs five centers. Especially if four of them cannot shoot. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 10:35 PM)Tyler Wrote: It's not easy, but I don't think it has to be that complicated.Interested? Yes...but doesn’t Atlanta need to be within 5 million of Maxi’s 8.7M, and 14M is barely too large for that to be legal? The goal of trying to get just Atlanta and Dallas to work out a deal is that any Collins acquisition takes away trade pieces for Dragic, so LouWill could be “that” guard. Atlanta could benefit from the TPE in your scenario, a “tip” in its own potentially. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Tyler - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 11:07 PM)SamStetz Wrote: doesn’t Atlanta need to be within 5 million of Maxi’s 8.7M, and 14M is barely too large for that to be legal? No. You can always send out way more than you take back. That's how TPEs are generated. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-02-2021 All that said, I think the Collins idea is still alive and the path to a trade is there, just depends on what Atlanta wants (Maxi + pick?) and what OKC/potential 3rd team would want for extra salary (Powell + WCS/Burke) RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Branduil - 08-02-2021 I'm all for Collins of course but it would be a weird move unless we're also sending KP out somewhere. (KP to TOR, Siakam to POR, McCollum to DAL?) RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 11:11 PM)Branduil Wrote: a weird move unless we're also sending KP out somewhere Why? JC is a floor spreading PF who is on the smaller side. I think he fits great with KP. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SamStetz - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 11:09 PM)Tyler Wrote: No. You can always send out way more than you take back. That's how TPEs are generated.If that player is going into cap space or a TPE, otherwise you have to meet 175%/5Mil/125% trade rules. If a players salary is greater than $6.3M, then the difference in salary in a trade can be no more than 5M...right? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - KillerLeft - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 11:12 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Why? JC is a floor spreading PF who is on the smaller side. I think he fits great with KP. Depends on how you look at it. I can buy the case you just made, but then...who's spacing for whom most often? And, if Collins is the action guy, is KP ok with that? And then there's the defensive end. Maybe Collins is getting better at defense, or maybe he just played a year with a healthy Capella. (KP aint Capella). But yes, on paper I think they fit better than KP Holmes, personally. And, you have to take the opportunity if you're Dallas and it's available. I just wonder how available it is. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1422410451577556994 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1422410903954235399 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422410912300945408 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Mavs03 - 08-02-2021 Credit to Tyler for the John Collins idea. I think Collins would be a better fit than Holmes personally and would jive well with KP. Luka THJ DFS Collins KP Brunson Bullock S. Brown Bey M. Brown The bench would need to add a few more front court players...but that team is a legit title contender RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1422411088721850368 |