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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SleepingHero - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:25 PM)SamStetz Wrote: https://twitter.com/KateBDoll/status/1422352188223938567?s=20

I wonder if a 3 team trade can be done.

SAC: Powell
TOR: Holmes+Burke
DAL: Dragic


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:23 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Money going quick and there are still guys like Holmes, Collins, and DeRozan on the board. Still lots of guys to add to the starting lineup.

I totally read your money drying up thing backwards, apologies.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - omahen - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I wonder if a 3 team trade can be done.

SAC: Powell
TOR: Holmes+Burke
DAL: Dragic


I was thinking about that. With Toronto sending compensation to Sacramento


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cjeter24 - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:21 PM)omahen Wrote: Could be. Although I don't think it makes any sense for Oubre now, with all wing additions. I guess SA will throw a max offer to Collins. I doubt OKC would go for any of them

IMO we are missing a starting 3 or 4 still. I think that's the next move. Oubre would fit then. I think the other guys were pure depth moves.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - omahen - 08-02-2021

There is still NO. I kind of doubt they would be satisfied with Sato for Ball. I think there will be more to that


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - dirkfansince1998 - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:27 PM)omahen Wrote: I was thinking about that. With Toronto sending compensation to Sacramento

More likely Dallas. Holmes is the most valuable asset. Dragic is expiring. Burke and Powell have negative value and two years remaining.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - omahen - 08-02-2021

https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1422351529105924097

(08-02-2021, 07:30 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: More likely Dallas. Holmes is the most valuable asset. Dragic is expiring. Burke and Powell have negative value and two years remaining.

Toronto needs to move Dragic if they want Holmes. I doubt Sacramento takes him. The alternative for them is to pay OKC (if they are interested)


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - JamesConway - 08-02-2021

https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/1422353682067333129?s=21


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - mvossman - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Sterling Browns career 3pt%: 37.4% on 2.7 attempts per game. 
Wes Iwundu career 3pt%:  28.6% on  1.1 attempts per game

Kind of a massive difference to me there.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422349393659838465

The thing is Iwundu was a career 35% shooter when we signed him on a small sample.  He has since shit the bed.  Brown was also a career 35% shooter (on small sample) before he went crazy last year (on a small sample).  They both headed in completely different directions but the sample is not big enough to be sure what Brown is.  My guess is he goes back to being an average 3% shooter.  That is probably worth more than Iwundu, but I think people need to be careful reading too much into a single small sample season.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:25 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I like THT too but the Mavs new HC who saw him up close than any of us probably played a major role in not going after him.

RFA complicates because they can tie up cap space while they decide to match the tender.  Lakers also leaked they'd match any offer for THT earlier today.  

I started this train in the pre-season and I'm not jumping off.  Dude is going to be good in this league for another decade+.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - omahen - 08-02-2021

https://twitter.com/HoopAnalysisNet/status/1422355051125870594


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - hakeemfaan - 08-02-2021

Not impressed with the Mavs moves today.  The team sorely lacks starting talent. Should have gone all in after someone like Lonzo. Even someone like THT would have been bettting on potential. Instead they decided to play safe. Nothing against the guys they did get:resign.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SleepingHero - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:30 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: More likely Dallas. Holmes is the most valuable asset. Dragic is expiring. Burke and Powell have negative value and two years remaining.


Both teams need front court help and Powell (while flawed) can still score at an elite rate. His 11M is a good chunk, but if you're SAC would you rather pay Holmes 16M or Powell 11M?

I don't think the Mavs need to send as much compensation as you think.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:36 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Not impressed with the Mavs moves today.  The team sorely lacks starting talent. Should have gone all in after someone like Lonzo. Even someone like THT would have been bettting on potential. Instead they decided to play safe. Nothing against the guys they did get:resign.

I just put myself in Lonzo's shoes and I wouldn't want to come to Dallas.  Going somewhere I can have the ball in my hands more increases the potential of my future earnings.  I really never saw him as a possibility.  Would have been nice though.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - omahen - 08-02-2021

https://twitter.com/ekoreen/status/1422349288445784069?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1422349288445784069%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdallas-mavericks


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - mvossman - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:30 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: IMO we are missing a starting 3 or 4 still. I think that's the next move. Oubre would fit then. I think the other guys were pure depth moves.

I just don't ever see him being good at basketball.  He is what he is, an athletic poor shooting poor defensive wing.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SleepingHero - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:34 PM)mvossman Wrote: The thing is Iwundu was a career 35% shooter when we signed him on a small sample.  He has since shit the bed.  Brown was also a career 35% shooter (on small sample) before he went crazy last year (on a small sample).  They both headed in completely different directions but the sample is not big enough to be sure what Brown is.  My guess is he goes back to being an average 3% shooter.  That is probably worth more than Iwundu, but I think people need to be careful reading too much into a single small sample season.


I used career 3pt% for a reason. Brown has had 1 year below 35% from 3 and it was last year. Iwundu has only 1 year ABOVE 35% in his entire career from 3.

Sure we can blame it on small sample theatre. Over 4 years I think Brown has made it quite obvious he's in another class of shooters compared to Iwundu.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - cow - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:39 PM)mvossman Wrote: I just don't ever see him being good at basketball.  He is what he is, an athletic poor shooting poor defensive wing.

I liked his potential with the Wizards but I've really soured on him after his time with the Suns and Warriors.


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - SleepingHero - 08-02-2021

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1422355898563928097


RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: JC and ATL have "no momentum" - hakeemfaan - 08-02-2021

(08-02-2021, 07:38 PM)cow Wrote: I just put myself in Lonzo's shoes and I wouldn't want to come to Dallas.  Going somewhere I can have the ball in my hands more increases the potential of my future earnings.  I really never saw him as a possibility.  Would have been nice though.

Not disagreeing. Usually I am one of those guys who wants the team to be realistic and safe in FA. However other than Luka we don’t have a legit starter.  That is a serious issue. I would have liked them to chase aome windmills this time with the backup option of going big on THT. I know he is a RFA.   Should have taken some chances.