(06-30-2024, 01:24 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Thanks for posting this. 

The emboldened is something I'm not sure it's very smart to allow Stein to say publicly, from the Mavs' POV, even if it's true.

(06-30-2024, 01:24 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Thanks for posting this. 

The emboldened is something I'm not sure it's very smart to allow Stein to say publicly, from the Mavs' POV, even if it's true.

(06-30-2024, 01:27 AM)omahen Wrote: This comes from my personal valuation of Klay. Since no salary is coming their way, I think the cost for their facilitation should be minimal. Cash, fake second or similar. They do Klay a solid, they get a nice TPE and keep their flexibility moving forward.

If I am Mavs, no way I would be taking the risk with Klay, his age, decline and his salary and pay a FRP for it. That would be a bad deal imho.

(06-30-2024, 01:31 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: It would be just like Mark Cuban to be stuck several years ago and say, "Oh, yeah, screw DJJ, let's get Klay! So much better on offense and just as good on defense! In 2024!"

But I thought Mark Cuban was no longer making decisions for the Mavs.

(06-30-2024, 01:30 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Klay is a no for me. He’s always been a bit overrated to me and now he’s old. Would rather have DJJ or Marshall.

(06-30-2024, 01:31 AM)omahen Wrote: Everything shows Mavs are all in on Thompson (assuming Stein knows what he is saying and I have very high respect for Stein):
- he will start
- top priority before DJJ
- Marshal back-up for DJJ

Message to DJJ. We like you, appreciate you, but there are limits to that. Also, if Thompson is a starter, how much do you really want to pay for his back-up?

(06-30-2024, 01:39 AM)omahen Wrote: Another take we can have from the Klay story. Seems like Mavs don't see DJJ as a starter here when building a contending team. We can assume they are not stupid and they have seen Klay play and know his stats. Still, they think he is a better fit at starter than DJJ. They asked for KCP, they asked for Grant,...

So, if DJJ is seen hopefuly (by Mavs) as a bench guy, how much are you really willing to pay? Wouldn't anything over 10 mil be a significant overpay for that role?

(06-30-2024, 01:41 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: And to me, this kind of speaks to the plans (or lack thereof) they have for Quentin Grimes. If he's not going to play this position at all, he's not going to play very much. I know some have said he's more of a 2 for them, but that puts him not only behind Luka and Kyrie, but also competing with Hardy and Exum for a role. 

I don't really like how this seems to be shaping up, but we'll see!

(06-30-2024, 01:48 AM)omahen Wrote: Not counting injuries, there are some 45 minutes available behind Luka, Kyrie and Klay on positions 1-3. Enough for two players, but that would make Exum and Hardy deep bench guys and open in case of emergency (injuries, rest) options.

(06-30-2024, 01:43 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Idk...they paid Green more than that. I get that they're trying to fix that mistake as we speak, but I can see the 3rd forward (can play both positions) having a big enough role to warrant the MLE. I hope he's closer to $10 million, of course, but I wouldn't be mad at the full exception.

(06-30-2024, 01:52 AM)omahen Wrote: Green is much younger with more potential to improve, thats why a bit bigger salary.

My point - Mavs might see DJJ as a 15 mpg guy moving forward, because they want a premium upgrade at his position. As long as they don't get that guy he is a valuable player. But when they do, they can live even without him.

And I don't want to get into discussion if Klay is that guy. I have my doubts about him, but looks like Mavs don't have.

(06-30-2024, 01:51 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I guess I am one of the only ones who feel this way, but I will be shocked if Hardy isn’t Given a good, long look at the third guard/6th man role this season. They have to figure out if they want to keep him, and he is on the last year of his deal.

To be honest, I also wouldn’t be surprised if he is traded this week for that, same reason, especially if they view Grimes as more of a guard.

(06-30-2024, 01:55 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I get your point, but I don’t see Jones, even if he’s a back up, as only a one position back up. Until they add another four, he is monumentally superior to Kleber in that role against most teams, I think. So, following your logic above, I would have his minutes rounding 25, and on the way to 30.

(06-30-2024, 12:59 AM)omahen Wrote: 1 Most important info: if Thompson comes, he will be a starter

2 I doubt GSW would entertain any salary back in a SnT. They want to get significantly better for Curry, they don't want some 8th best players on MLE level money (they have plenty of guys like that on rookie deals), much less so the likes of D'Angelo Russell. These guys would be preventing them from any potential big swings using CP3 deal. 

3 I don't think Lakers would be really interested in a SnT, where they would have to pay assets to someone to take Russell. I think Lakers are trying to get two deals. One is using their contracts (preferably DLo) and assets for a very good player and the other one is MLE. I don't think they will offer Thompson more than MLE.

(06-30-2024, 01:57 AM)omahen Wrote: Agree that minutes behind PJ are a bit of an unknown. Are they going to Maxi or Mavs playing smaller ball with Luka as nominal PF. That would free up a lot of minutes at positions 1-3.

(06-30-2024, 01:15 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: ..... then DJJ is scooped up by Lebron and LA. Not sure though what his role in LA would be as they already have Lebron, Rui, Vando, Taurean Price, Cam Reddish at the 3/4. So if he wants to have a significant role, Mavs is his best bet.