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RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - FireNicoHarrison - 02-26-2025

Probably he just needs time but he doesn't look so happy in LA... I am not surprise if he will not resign there honestly... mostly if Denver will have cap space...

Luka, please screw the Fakers.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - JamesConway912 - 02-26-2025

Handles it like a normal human being. Takes courage to talk this openly and admit that he was moved against his will. He was the next Dirk and these buffoons pissed it all away.

I don’t have it in me to watch a single second of basketball right now but reading the boxscore of last night’s game felt great.

I’m glad the good guys won. The Mavs’ organization has reached Heatles-levels of disgustingness.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - michaeltex - 02-26-2025

Luka had an OK game considering the emotional level attached to it. 6-17 (1-7) for 13 points is not very efficient, but he had his usual 10+ assists and 15 rebounds, so he had a Luka-type game. Despite the Luka-hype it was Hachimura, Reeves and LBJ who carried the team, especially LBJ in the 4th quarter.

Hoping DAL is more full strength for the next meeting. If you can add AD and one of the other two bigs, then this might be a different contest. But you play with the team you have at the time.

But it's done and Luka got his "revenge". Maybe everybody can just move on now?


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - mvossman - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 09:33 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Luka had an OK game considering the emotional level attached to it. 6-17 (1-7) for 13 points is not very efficient, but he had his usual 10+ assists and 15 rebounds, so he had a Luka-type game. Despite the Luka-hype it was Hachimura, Reeves and LBJ who carried the team, especially LBJ in the 4th quarter.

Hoping DAL is more full strength for the next meeting. If you can add AD and one of the other two bigs, then this might be a different contest. But you play with the team you have at the time.

But it's done and Luka got his "revenge". Maybe everybody can just move on now?

Don't count on it.  This will probably go on for a very long time.  It will take either a championship, Luka completely falling off a cliff, Nico getting fired or the team getting sold for this to completely go away.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - FireNicoHarrison - 02-26-2025

It's a little satisfaction think that the Mavs are better than the Lakers this year but it's just normal.

Last year we came off the NBA Finals and they lost 4-1 to Denver in the first round, we have to be better than them next years.
That's the problem.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Scott41theMavs - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 10:22 AM)mvossman Wrote: Don't count on it.  This will probably go on for a very long time.  It will take either a championship, Luka completely falling off a cliff, Nico getting fired or the team getting sold for this to completely go away.

How long did it take us to get over them trading Kidd? Losing Nash? Breaking up the championship team? Losing Brunson? (and for those with longer fandom than me, losing Perkins and trading Aguirre for Done-tley?) 

Add whatever that would be all together and at least double it. That should answer the question of how long it will take Mavs fans to really get over it. And it would require Nico being replaced during that time-span, and perhaps also the team getting sold again. That's long enough of a time that it will be irrespective of Luka's achievements or whether the AD Mavs win a championship. And the time frame will also be extended if Kyrie walks on them this summer, or if they dump any of PJ, Christie, or Lively to get KD.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - nicholasthefan - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 11:42 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: How long did it take us to get over them trading Kidd? Losing Nash? Breaking up the championship team? Losing Brunson? (and for those with longer fandom than me, losing Perkins and trading Aguirre for Done-tley?) 

Add whatever that would be all together and at least double it. That should answer the question of how long it will take Mavs fans to really get over it. And it would require Nico being replaced during that time-span, and perhaps also the team getting sold again. That's long enough of a time that it will be irrespective of Luka's achievements or whether the AD Mavs win a championship. And the time frame will also be extended if Kyrie walks on them this summer, or if they dump any of PJ, Christie, or Lively to get KD.

I disagree. Maybe the Steve Nash thing is kind of similar. The only difference is that we had another homegrown young star to latch onto with Dirk. 

I can’t speak for other people, but I can say for myself. I’m struggling right now because we don’t have any homegrown young star to actually latch onto so it just feels like a team full of players in Mavericks jerseys.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - KillerLeft - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 01:38 PM)nicholasthefan Wrote: I can’t speak for other people, but I can say for myself. I’m struggling right now because we don’t have any homegrown young star to actually latch onto so it just feels like a team full of players in Mavericks jerseys.

Absolutely. This is the crux of it for me, too.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Jym - 02-26-2025

there are a lot of us with no connection to Dallas who are feeling rudderless
I've never even been to Dallas, well except for the airport
Straight up if Dirk was traded around 2005, I guess I would have just followed along to whatever new team that was.
Luka showing up when he did helped that post-Dirk transition.
If there was any question on whether I'd switch to Memphis which is way closer(and I could go to games in person), that thought was easily shot down


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - cow - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 08:48 AM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Probably he just needs time but he doesn't look so happy in LA... I am not surprise if he will not resign there honestly... mostly if Denver will have cap space...

Luka, please screw the Fakers.

The dynamic of playing with LeBron will be different from anything he's experienced in his career.  Combine that with shellshock of the trade (Dirk mentioned he wanted to retire a Maverick) and coming off an injury/being in worse shape than usual and you have a recipe for the blasé Luka we are seeing.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Chicagojk - 02-26-2025

I would love to have an off the record beer with Carlisle about the Luka trade. Him and Luka did not really get along and Carlisle relished the opportunity to play Luka since he left as the Mavericks coach. I really wonder what he thoughts would be off the record. I could see him saying, heck no you don't trade Luka. You fire me (coach), GM and anyone before your organization trades that caliber of player. I can also see him saying that there are some concerns and he can see the merit. I would guess his comments off record would be more like the first one, but I am sure he would have strong opinions.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - audiosway - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 03:43 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I would love to have an off the record beer with Carlisle about the Luka trade.  Him and Luka did not really get along and Carlisle relished the opportunity to play Luka since he left as the Mavericks coach.  I really wonder what he thoughts would be off the record.  I could see him saying, heck no you don't trade Luka.  You fire me (coach), GM and anyone before your organization trades that caliber of player.  I can also see him saying that there are some concerns and he can see the merit.  I would guess his comments off record would be more like the first one, but I am sure he would have strong opinions.

On the record I think Carlisle says you fire every one and not trade Luka. Off the record I think he says the opposite. Rick is the blue collar work hard type coach. He had to fight hard to stay in the league. He was on that Celtics team with Bird, McHale, Chief, Ainge, DJ, Walton and the crew. He wasn't a big believer in the "players" coaches and all of that. You worked hard and earned your spot. I think that's why he and Luka clashed.

He couldn't stand Luka arguing with the refs. I would imagine his diet and conditioning routine irritated Rick to no end. Rick would rather have a less skilled player that was willing to learn and work hard.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Scott41theMavs - 02-26-2025

(02-26-2025, 01:38 PM)nicholasthefan Wrote: I disagree. Maybe the Steve Nash thing is kind of similar. The only difference is that we had another homegrown young star to latch onto with Dirk. 

I can’t speak for other people, but I can say for myself. I’m struggling right now because we don’t have any homegrown young star to actually latch onto so it just feels like a team full of players in Mavericks jerseys.

In what sense do you disagree with what I said?


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - david75090 - 02-27-2025

The guys on the DumbZone aren't doing any better about the trade the rest of us...

https://www.youtube.com/live/fVJhl6nNC5s?si=HuJ38hjOrd5fQTwj


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Chicagojk - 02-27-2025

If I can squint hard enough, I can sort of buy that this new team can be very good. Could is the key word, because the fit and play style is a little unconvential. What brings me back to reality is two things:

1) I think at least one more move has to be made, and I can't identify that direction now.

2) I look at the LAL roster and think, what are we even doing here?


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - mvossman - 02-27-2025

(02-27-2025, 08:50 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: If I can squint hard enough, I can sort of buy that this new team can be very good.  Could is the key word, because the fit and play style is a little unconvential.    What brings me back to reality is two things:

1) I think at least one more move has to be made, and I can't identify that direction now.

2) I look at the LAL roster and think, what are we even doing here?

If 1) is referring to the Mavs, I thought you already identified that need?  They need to replace Klay in the starting lineup with a two way player with size that can create, defend and shoot.  They have to be able to shoot.  We are already going to have spacing concerns playing two centers, we can't add a perimeter player that can't shoot.  Lonzo Ball is the poor mans version of that player, and if the knee is completely healthy and he gets back fully to what he was pre injury, he would be a very good fit.

As for LA, they had very little time to adjust to the trade.  They backed out of the Williams trade post TDL.  But we know what the template is.  They need to get a starting P&R center who is also a high level defender (Hayes is a perfect backup).  Then they need to surround their three creators with 3&D guys.  They probably should trade Rui for a better defender.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - joshuadx89 - 02-27-2025

I've read this board for a few years now but never posted.  This probably isn't great use of my first post but did want to chime in on the trade and the aftermath.

A little background.   Like many 90's kids I grew up a Bulls fan.   Continued following the Bulls through the Derrick Rose/Noah years but my fandom of the NBA in general fell off a lot towards the end of the 2010's.  

Fast forward a bit to when the Mavs drafted Luka.  My at the time 7-year-old son fell in love with basketball, and almost instantly was a Luka/Mavericks' fan.   Over the last 7 years he and I have bonded a ton over sports.   His love of Luka made us both Mavericks' fans.   We watched as many games as we could on the east coast.  That culminated last year when we watched our favorite team go to the NBA Finals.    My son has grown into a 13 almost 14-year-old with an absolute love of the game.   He's modeled his game after his favorite player.  So much so I had a stranger ask me if he was my kid at his last game this year.  When I said yes, he told me he plays like little Luka.  

When the trade happened, I found out through text from a friend I play old guy basketball with.   When my son woke up and I told him, he was devastated.    I thought back to being 13 or 14 and being completely in love with this sport and wondered how I'd feel if I woke up and found out the Bulls had traded Michael Jordan.   We've continued to watch the Mavericks when possible.  It's not the same.   We've also continued to watch Luka.  Its also not the same.   Luka looks wrong in a Lakers jersey.   The entire thing is wrong.   The sad part is its fairly obvious Luka still wants to be in Dallas.   I will hold out a sliver of hope that he comes back after next year.   

All of that said, I think the Mavericks' front office came across clueless and classless when trading Luka.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - KillerLeft - 02-27-2025

(02-27-2025, 12:43 PM)joshuadx89 Wrote: I've read this board for a few years now but never posted.  This probably isn't great use of my first post but did want to chime in on the trade and the aftermath.

A little background.   Like many 90's kids I grew up a Bulls fan.   Continued following the Bulls through the Derrick Rose/Noah years but my fandom of the NBA in general fell off a lot towards the end of the 2010's.  

Fast forward a bit to when the Mavs drafted Luka.  My at the time 7-year-old son fell in love with basketball, and almost instantly was a Luka/Mavericks' fan.   Over the last 7 years he and I have bonded a ton over sports.   His love of Luka made us both Mavericks' fans.   We watched as many games as we could on the east coast.  That culminated last year when we watched our favorite team go to the NBA Finals.    My son has grown into a 13 almost 14-year-old with an absolute love of the game.   He's modeled his game after his favorite player.  So much so I had a stranger ask me if he was my kid at his last game this year.  When I said yes, he told me he plays like little Luka.  

When the trade happened, I found out through text from a friend I play old guy basketball with.   When my son woke up and I told him, he was devastated.    I thought back to being 13 or 14 and being completely in love with this sport and wondered how I'd feel if I woke up and found out the Bulls had traded Michael Jordan.   We've continued to watch the Mavericks when possible.  It's not the same.   We've also continued to watch Luka.  Its also not the same.   Luka looks wrong in a Lakers jersey.   The entire thing is wrong.   The sad part is its fairly obvious Luka still wants to be in Dallas.   I will hold out a sliver of hope that he comes back after next year.   

All of that said, I think the Mavericks' front office came across clueless and classless when trading Luka.

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm having a similar experience with my Dad. The Mavericks were one of the things that most often brought us together, and this trade has really made talking about the team feel weird.


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - F Gump - 02-27-2025

Nico needs to go. The trade can't be undone, but his management of the aftermath - rather than offering any comfort or ability to move on - has only served to alienate the fanbase more and more. Firing him yesterday would be preferable, but the sooner the better, since he's demonstrating day after day that he's inept at both dealing with basketball stuff AND dealing with the public. If you win with AD but no one cares, did you win?


RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - omahen - 02-27-2025

(02-27-2025, 10:18 AM)mvossman Wrote: As for LA, they had very little time to adjust to the trade.  They backed out of the Williams trade post TDL.  But we know what the template is.  They need to get a starting P&R center who is also a high level defender (Hayes is a perfect backup).  Then they need to surround their three creators with 3&D guys.  They probably should trade Rui for a better defender.

While I could agree with the idea, couple of thoughts after watching LAL after the trade. Rui and Reaves really surprised me. Reaves is great offensively and fights on defense, despite his limitations. Rui is also a pretty versatile offensive player. Very good catch and shoot guy, who can also do other stuff decently. Also plays decent defense and LAL defense is actually one of the best in the league in last 15 to 20 games. Their biggest weakness in the starting lineup is a point of attack defender, but they have several of those guys on the bench in DFS, Vando or Vincent. All of them bring less offense for much better defense. 

Lakers advantage is, that they are very big and most of the guys can play several positions. That is why they will likely play a switch heavy defense with aggresive help on star players. This will work great against teams with at least one iffy shooter, as they will just leave him open and live with the result. See Denver game as a reference - Gordon, Westbrook and Braun were close to 50 % from three on 17 attempts, but wasn't nearly enough for Denver. They played in a similar way against Mavs.

Lakers do start Hayes but basically play him reserve minutes, as most of center minutes are used for a point of attack defender and a small ball line-up. LeBron, Doncic, DFS and Rui are all big enough to give a decent fight even against best bigs, let alone average ones. On the other side, every big will have problems defending them, as Rui and DFS are over 40 % 3pt shooters, before we mention Luka and LeBron. Their small ball will be very very difficult to defend while defense could be decent. Opposing center will have to guard the perimeter and their bunch of big wings will be much stronger than most of opposing defenders. I was surprised they didn't attack Kyrie more in the game against Mavs. 

They will imho have way more troubles against teams with quick guards and a bunch of shooting around them then against teams like Denver or Minny. OKC for example - I think Dallas before the trade was better than them (built to win against them), I can't see Lakers winning against them in a playoff series.  

Number one priority for the offseason will be the center. It would be nice to have a better 3-D player than Rui, but they are short on assets. Only one tradeable FRP and SRP, they do have 3 pick swaps to offer though. They are some 10 mil over the first apron, but all of their contracts are expiring and it shouldn't be a problem to shed salary if needed. Maxi is a prime candidate for that. The best possibility for a better future is actually LeBron. If he would be willing to take considerably less money, a lot of opportunities could open for them. DSF is also a bit of a question mark, as he has a PO at 15 mil, but I kind of doubt anyone would be willing to offer him that money on a longer deal. 

Lakers advantage is, they have a bunch of expiring deals in the 10-20 mil range. Reaves has by far most value, but it would likely take a star player to trade him. Rui has a decent production for his 18 mil. Gabe and Maxi are sallary fillers. I don't see DFS take his PO just to be traded. 

I think they will try to improve while keeping max cap space in 2026/27, which is the year they will imho target another star to join Luka and then build around those two players for the next 4 or 5 year window (they need to plan for post LeBron years). If they keep their picks, they would have 3 tradeable FRP next summer (2026, 31 and 33). This means expiring guys (or guys on rookie deals) would be most likely targets. Perhaps the buddies make another deal that sends Gafford to LA Smile Mitchel Robinson, Robert Williams or Poeltl could be targets. Perhaps they take a one year flyer on Ayton. Or they go "all in" with Kessler. Or go small with Collins at center. None of this guys should cost a lot in terms of assets. 

Marcus Smart could be a very interesting name for a point of attack defender. He had two bad seasons (buy low), but is only 30 and Washington has no use for him. If the price wouldn't be high, I would take a one year chance to see if he can return to his Boston days.