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RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @MikeAScotto I might be getting greedy here, but I wonder...if the DJJ contract is on the lower side of what we expect, does that allow the Mavs to use the BAE or even the remainder of the MLE on this guy? Could he be had for that? Would the Mavs even be interested? If the answer to any of the above is yes, does that open the path to moving Kleber (along with Green) even wider? RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral Don't do it, D'Angelo! You'll be an Atlanta Hawk about 15 minutes after you make it official! RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - omahen - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I might be getting greedy here, but I wonder...if the DJJ contract is on the lower side of what we expect, does that allow the Mavs to use the BAE or even the remainder of the MLE on this guy? Could he be had for that? Would the Mavs even be interested? BaE is lower than what he just rejected. I guess the only path would be a Maxi SnT, but one wonders if Indy is not just better signing him for same dollars than taking Maxi RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:45 PM)omahen Wrote: BaE is lower than what he just rejected. I guess the only path would be a Maxi SnT, but one wonders if Indy is not just better signing him for same dollars than taking Maxi Doh, sorry. I worked until like 4 AM last night and I'm going on very little sleep today. Typing faster than I'm thinking. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Ghost of Podkolzin - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: "League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade that I wrote about Tuesday (see the full Twitter thread here), are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency. Klay @ min is a no-brainer. He takes over 6th man role from THJ. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Jason Terry - 06-28-2024 We could trade Powell for air (least favorable 2nd) and open up the full MLE and full BAE RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Jym - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:48 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Klay @ min is a no-brainer. He takes over 6th man role from THJ. well yeah this conversation is about the possibility of us paying him around 20 mil a year or more for multiple years RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Mavs2021 - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:45 PM)omahen Wrote: BaE is lower than what he just rejected. I guess the only path would be a Maxi SnT, but one wonders if Indy is not just better signing him for same dollars than taking Maxi He rejected to put his career fate in the hands of the franchise that just gave him a virtual DNP coach´s decision for the whole East play-offs. If he opts in the Pacers probably just trade him or he rides the bench again as Walker´s minutes increase. I´m pretty positive Indiana would do a straight up S&T for Kleber. Maybe with great negotiations with Smith and DJJ you can fit them both under the apron with just Powell +2nd rounder (if we still have any) and actually keep Kleber, too. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Ghost of Podkolzin - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:52 PM)Jym Wrote: well yeah Sorry, misread the quote, thinking he'd take the minimum. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Mavs2021 - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Don't do it, D'Angelo! You'll be an Atlanta Hawk about 15 minutes after you make it official! Still better paid than China. ![]() RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - The Jom - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 12:57 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Sorry, misread the quote, thinking he'd take the minimum. Me too but it meant minimum of 3 year deal, not at the minimum. Had to read it 3 times myself. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - audiosway - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 11:51 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I agree with all that, but the info floating out there makes it seem like this would be an "instead of" move regarding DJJ, referencing the flexibility just created by the Detroit deal. I'm not buying that. I think Jones is going to get a chunk of that MLE. I have a feeling that Orlando is the destination for Klay and that mentioning the Mavs is to make sure the offer is good from the Magic. I also have a feeling that Grant is the piece that Dallas really wants. Too much smoke there from what has been passed around. I think Grant would be ideal to put this team over the top. Nico is on a tear right now. I'll trust any move that guy makes at this point. He has definitely proven he knows what he is doing. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - omahen - 06-28-2024 Good news is if Mavs are willing to offload Green, they are serious players for SnT guys that would cost up to roughly 16 mil in their first season. Some teams might be willing to play along in the SnT as no salary would be going back. Interesting names in that regard (in no particular order): - Harris - Trent Jr - RoCo, Batum - Patrick Williams - Miles Bridges (don't kill me, just listing him) - Jalen Smith - Achiuwa - Klay RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Jym - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:17 PM)audiosway Wrote: I have a feeling that Orlando is the destination for Klay and that mentioning the Mavs is to make sure the offer is good from the Magic. and I trust he'll make no deal if the asking price is too high running it back and seeing if we have any internal growth isn't a bad plan RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:21 PM)Jym Wrote: and I trust he'll make no deal if the asking price is too high Can't be said enough. Once DJJ is re-signed, the team is in the rarified airspace of "well, if that's all they can do, I still feel good about next season." I'm not sure how many times we've been able to say that before July in our collective history as fans. And, there ARE still moves, both in addition to and maybe even instead of DJJ that could potentially turn this solid, intimate party into a project X style rager. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Reunion Mav - 06-28-2024 Yes this summer we won’t have to stay so incredibly patient and wait for them to make the late recovery move to somewhat save the summer. We are already a legit potential top 4 seed and quite possibly higher. The later thread we will need is about self improvement of the players and strategy improvement from the team. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SkenfromLMF - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:17 PM)audiosway Wrote: I also have a feeling that Grant is the piece that Dallas really wants. Too much smoke there from what has been passed around. I think Grant would be ideal to put this team over the top. Careful with that last portion. Nico has still not made a trade without Lindsey's input... ![]() RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - F Gump - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:19 PM)omahen Wrote: Good news is if Mavs are willing to offload Green, they are serious players for SnT guys that would cost up to roughly 16 mil in their first season. Some teams might be willing to play along in the SnT as no salary would be going back. The Mavs have trade match via SNT to that number, but I doubt they have that much room under the Apron, after paying DJJ. . (I don't have access to a spreadsheet right now to figure the rough working number for the combo of DJJ and a player via Green trade, but I'm guessing it would be around 26.5 off the top of my head, which allows a player making about 13.5 or maybe a bit more if Green is moved as well as THJ.) RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Jmaciscool - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Can't be said enough. Once DJJ is re-signed, the team is in the rarified airspace of "well, if that's all they can do, I still feel good about next season." I'm not sure how many times we've been able to say that before July in our collective history as fans. Feels so much better. If the old regime were still in charge I imagine this would have been the plan: 1. Trade THJ + 2025 first for cap space 2. Use said cap space to try and lure "big fish" (Paul George/LeBron/ or any other star older than 33) 3. Wait (with cap space) on big fish's decision / simultaneously be used by agents as leverage for their clients to sign elsewhere 4. Watch DJJ sign elsewhere (still waiting for big fish to sign) 5. Eventually use cap space to sign a #3 guy to a #1 contract Much better place now. RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - chaparral - 06-28-2024 (06-28-2024, 01:55 PM)F Gump Wrote: The Mavs have trade match via SNT to that number, but I doubt they have that much room under the Apron, after paying DJJ. . Green and Kleber = 23.6mil for Cameron Johnson's 23.6mil. |