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RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - BoredAssistant - 02-02-2025
The two most valuable franchises in the league got both of the Mavericks' best players so that's comforting.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Jym - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 12:53 AM)Jym Wrote: well this should be fun
2027 first round draft pick to Charlotte
Dallas' 2027 1st round pick to Charlotte protected for selections 1-2; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Dallas will instead convey Miami's 2028 2nd round pick to Charlotte [Charlotte-Dallas, 2/8/2024]
2027 second round draft pick to Washington or Detroit
Washington will receive the more favorable of Brooklyn's 2027 2nd round pick and Dallas' 2027 2nd round pick and Detroit will receive the less favorable of the two (via Brooklyn to Detroit; via Dallas to Brooklyn to Detroit; via Detroit to Washington) [Brooklyn-Detroit, 9/4/2021; Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023; Brooklyn-Detroit, 7/6/2023; Detroit-Washington, 7/6/2023]
2028 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2028 1st round pick for Dallas' 2028 1st round pick [Dallas-Oklahoma City, 2/8/2024]
2028 second round draft pick to Indiana
Dallas' 2028 2nd round pick to Indiana; Indiana may convey this pick to Toronto (see Indiana Outgoing) (via Sacramento) [Dallas-Sacramento, 6/24/2022; Indiana-Sacramento, 7/6/2023]
2029 first round draft pick to Houston or Brooklyn
Houston will receive the two most favorable of its 2029 1st round pick, Dallas' 2029 1st round pick and Phoenix's 2029 1st round pick and Brooklyn will receive the least favorable of the three (via Dallas and Phoenix to Brooklyn; via Dallas or Phoenix to Houston; via Houston's right to swap for Dallas or Phoenix) [Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023; Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Houston, 6/26/2024]
2029 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Dallas' 2029 2nd round pick to Brooklyn [Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023]
2030 first round draft pick to San Antonio or Minnesota (swap, San Antonio incoming)
San Antonio will receive the most favorable of its 2030 1st round pick, Dallas' 2030 1st round pick and Minnesota's 2030 1st round pick protected for selection 1; Dallas will receive the less favorable of its pick and the San Antonio pick; Minnesota will receive the less favorable of (i) its pick and (ii) the more favorable of the San Antonio pick and the Dallas pick; if the Minnesota pick falls on its protected selection, then Minnesota's obligation to San Antonio will be extinguished and San Antonio will instead have the right to swap its pick for the Dallas pick (via San Antonio's right to swap for Dallas; via San Antonio's right to swap San Antonio or Dallas for Minnesota) [Boston-Dallas-San Antonio, 7/12/2023; Minnesota-San Antonio, 6/26/2024]
2030 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Dallas' 2030 2nd round pick to Brooklyn (via Boston to Memphis) [Boston-Dallas-San Antonio, 7/12/2023; Boston-Memphis, 2/7/2024; Brooklyn-Memphis, 7/19/2024]
2031 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
Dallas' 2031 2nd round pick to Philadelphia [Charlotte-Dallas-Denver-Golden State-Minnesota-Philadelphia, 7/6/2024]
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - BigDirk41 - 02-02-2025
This makes losing Brunson for nothing even worse.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - cow - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 01:44 AM)BigDirk41 Wrote: This makes losing Brunson for nothing even worse.
We should have demanded Shake Milton from the Lakers.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - ThisIStheYear - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 01:37 AM)BigDirk41 Wrote: I just read that Luka is no longer super max eligible per Bobby Marks. That is really fucked for Luka if so. What a kick in the nuts.
https://x.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1885922284071702954
Luka will end up in San Antonio teaming with Wemby eventually.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - RoyTarpleysGhost - 02-02-2025
Windhorst was just on ESPN
“Do you know how much the Dallas Mavericks must hate Luka Doncic to make this trade?”
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - hakeemfaan - 02-02-2025
I had tears when Dirk won a title. This is as close to the opposite. Even winning a title with AD won’t change it unless you tell me AD can stay healthy the next three years and we win a couple more. Even then the feeling won’t be the same as having seen Dirk win one here or Luka winning one. There is something different when it is a homegrown piece from the start. We have good guys on this team and Inwould be happy for them if they won a title. Winning one with Luka would have been different. Even if we didn’t win one, watching him play for my fav team was a bragging right and a privilege.
Now all that is gone.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - RGP1981 - 02-02-2025
This is insane. Nico is nuts. Did he make this trade with the approval of the owners? Or did he act on his own?
Sounds like Nico only spoke to the Lakers because he (or Kyrie) wanted AD? There are other franchises who might have given the Mavs an absolute haul for Luka... such as the Jazz, Spurs, Rockets or Thunder.
This move seems to have come from Nico wanting more defense to win now. Kyrie and AD being friends also probably has something to do with it.
Or is this part of something deeper? Such as, the league asked the Mavs to make this trade for viewership reasons? The viewership numbers have not been good this season. This move saves the Lakers from the hole that Lebron and Klutch have dug them into, and the NBA feels like they need the Lakers to be good (even though it shouldn't matter because of other franchises)... and in return for trading Luka to the Lakers, the league has agreed to okay a move for this franchise to Vegas? Or to give them something else to make up for it? I'm digging deep into my conspiracy theory bag there, but who really knows?
Anyway, I will hope that the Mavericks win the ring this year. This trade sukks for Mavs fans and I think y'all are cool, so you deserve something good from this trade.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Jym - 02-02-2025
So we have a one or 2 year window before everything falls apart and there's no way to recover
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 01:56 AM)Jym Wrote: So we have a one or 2 year window before everything falls apart and there's no way to recover
Pretty much. Kyrie, AD and Klay aging out and or injured. Gafford likely gone. Lively, Omax and Max Christie as our young talent. PJ would be entering his prime. But no superstar on the horizon. That Lakers 2029 is no guarantee of anything.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Mavs2021 - 02-02-2025
ONE First. One FIRST. This is fake right? They moved April fools day to February, right? One first? One first. One first. And not even a young player in return. No a 30 year old injury prone mess. Okay I´m as done with this franchise. These fucktards could have called the Kings and would have gotten Fox, Monk and three Kings 1st round picks.
Turns out Nico is just a dumbass that got lucky once or twice in a trade, or rather Lindsay did all the work. No way does a GM that did the draft night trades do this garbage.
Now we have owners that are so dumb they approved this and apparently don´t care about winning. Might be a bunch of Sterlings trying to save money.
So in the end Kyrie does destroy the Mavs afterall, if he pushed for AD. This time he killed them silently.
I´m too old, and I´m not that old, to invest much time in this. There is no way to get better, cause Kidd, Nico and the owners that approved all this will still be in charge.
CU guys.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - BolsDamols - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 01:56 AM)Jym Wrote: before everything falls apartIt already has
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Jym - 02-02-2025
Kammrath was right all along
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Mavs2021 - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 01:19 AM)Jym Wrote: on the road to Vegas
Excellent point. They literally destroyed the team, so nothing to cheer for. Everybody hates them now and fans will be happy to see them leave Dallas. That must be the play here.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - hakeemfaan - 02-02-2025
There is no window. Are you all really telling me that you will be joyous and thrilled watching Kyrie and AD get a ring or two here? It’ll not be the same as having the chance to watch Luka do it here. Teams are not just about putting another banner. We already have one. We didn’t need one like Toronto did.
Every fan base was jealous that we had an insanely productive talent like Luka despite some of his warts. That was your guy. A generational talent. You just gave him up for a soon to be 32 year old who while talented, is not the same talent as a 26 year old Luka. Plus you could have got so much more if you really wanted to rebuild in a different direction. Instead the Mavs focused on some pointless short term ring that won’t excite many even if it happens.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - RoyTarpleysGhost - 02-02-2025
We’re under the luxury tax now lol
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Jym - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 02:10 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: There is no window. Are you all really telling me that you will be joyous and thrilled watching Kyrie and AD get a ring or two here? It’ll not be the same as having the chance to watch Luka do it here. Teams are not just about putting another banner. We already have one. We didn’t need one like Toronto did.
Every fan base was jealous that we had an insanely productive talent like Luka despite some of his warts. That wa your guy. A generational talent. You just have him up for a soon to be 32 year old who while talented, is not the same talent as a 26 year old Luka. Plus you could have got so much more if you really wanted to rebuild in a different direction. Instead the Mavs focused on some pointless short term ring that won’t excite many even if it happens.
a ring?
It'll be a wonder if win a playoff series in the foreseeable future
and we only have a chance of doing that in the next year or 2
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - HoosierDaddyKid - 02-02-2025
From what Shams said, Dallas initiated the deal, and they had their sights set on AD. It's not like the Lakers called them. It's more to it I'm sure, stay tuned.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - Mavs2021 - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 12:53 AM)Jym Wrote: well this should be
2027 first round draft pick to Charlotte
Dallas' 2027 1st round pick to Charlotte protected for selections 1-2; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Dallas will instead convey Miami's 2028 2nd round pick to Charlotte [Charlotte-Dallas, 2/8/2024]
2027 second round draft pick to Washington or Detroit
Washington will receive the more favorable of Brooklyn's 2027 2nd round pick and Dallas' 2027 2nd round pick and Detroit will receive the less favorable of the two (via Brooklyn to Detroit; via Dallas to Brooklyn to Detroit; via Detroit to Washington) [Brooklyn-Detroit, 9/4/2021; Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023; Brooklyn-Detroit, 7/6/2023; Detroit-Washington, 7/6/2023]
2028 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2028 1st round pick for Dallas' 2028 1st round pick [Dallas-Oklahoma City, 2/8/2024]
2028 second round draft pick to Indiana
Dallas' 2028 2nd round pick to Indiana; Indiana may convey this pick to Toronto (see Indiana Outgoing) (via Sacramento) [Dallas-Sacramento, 6/24/2022; Indiana-Sacramento, 7/6/2023]
2029 first round draft pick to Houston or Brooklyn
Houston will receive the two most favorable of its 2029 1st round pick, Dallas' 2029 1st round pick and Phoenix's 2029 1st round pick and Brooklyn will receive the least favorable of the three (via Dallas and Phoenix to Brooklyn; via Dallas or Phoenix to Houston; via Houston's right to swap for Dallas or Phoenix) [Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023; Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Houston, 6/26/2024]
2029 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Dallas' 2029 2nd round pick to Brooklyn [Brooklyn-Dallas, 2/6/2023]
2030 first round draft pick to San Antonio or Minnesota (swap, San Antonio incoming)
San Antonio will receive the most favorable of its 2030 1st round pick, Dallas' 2030 1st round pick and Minnesota's 2030 1st round pick protected for selection 1; Dallas will receive the less favorable of its pick and the San Antonio pick; Minnesota will receive the less favorable of (i) its pick and (ii) the more favorable of the San Antonio pick and the Dallas pick; if the Minnesota pick falls on its protected selection, then Minnesota's obligation to San Antonio will be extinguished and San Antonio will instead have the right to swap its pick for the Dallas pick (via San Antonio's right to swap for Dallas; via San Antonio's right to swap San Antonio or Dallas for Minnesota) [Boston-Dallas-San Antonio, 7/12/2023; Minnesota-San Antonio, 6/26/2024]
2030 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Dallas' 2030 2nd round pick to Brooklyn (via Boston to Memphis) [Boston-Dallas-San Antonio, 7/12/2023; Boston-Memphis, 2/7/2024; Brooklyn-Memphis, 7/19/2024]
2031 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
Dallas' 2031 2nd round pick to Philadelphia [Charlotte-Dallas-Denver-Golden State-Minnesota-Philadelphia, 7/6/2024]
Wait we they don´t have a 1st from 2027 to 2030 and will instead convert a top 5 lottery pick to Charlotte, OKC, Houston and San Antonio instead. This will be the worst team in the league by 2027 and it won´t have a pick or young players to show for it.
To be totally honest, even with the Lakers involved, I believe David Stern would have refused to sign off on this deal. Can the other owners veto this based on it´s insane stupidity. He could have gotten Butler, Herro, Jovic and Jacquez from Riley, the whole Bulls roster.
I feel totally numb. This is without the shadow of a doubt the single worst trade in NBA history. There is nothing that comes even close. Mikael Bridges got trade for five 1sts.
RE: Luka Dealt to Lakers - hakeemfaan - 02-02-2025
(02-02-2025, 02:14 AM)Jym Wrote: a ring?
It'll be a wonder if win a playoff series in the foreseeable future
and we only have a chance of doing that in the next year or 2
I am saying even the best case scenario doesnt move the needle for me. I am so bummed right now. I am in my mid 50s and this easily ranks as the worst trade I have seen in my life across all sports given that Luka never even forced their hand. What a sht show.