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RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Ghost of Podkolzin - 01-20-2025
(01-08-2025, 12:51 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I’d argue that he was a really good player, but not a max player.
Seems like those are often the worst deals.
Positively, but that's what bad franchises HAVE to do. To me the moral of the story is to not trade for overpaid players... and be a well managed franchise so you don't have to overpay your own.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - SleepingHero - 01-21-2025
Evan Sidery (@esidery)
Bradley Beal is open to waiving his no-trade clause to join the Bucks, per @Gambo987 (https://t.co/qihvULWqTI).
Milwaukee was a finalist alongside the Suns to get Beal originally in 2023 from the Wizards.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - SleepingHero - 01-21-2025
@esidery
There’s some buzz building around a potential Jimmy Butler trade framework including the Heat, Suns, Bucks and a facilitating fourth team. Phoenix would receive Jimmy Butler. Milwaukee would receive Bradley Beal. Miami would receive Khris Middleton. Facilitator takes on salary.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Jym - 01-21-2025
(01-21-2025, 08:58 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
There’s some buzz building around a potential Jimmy Butler trade framework including the Heat, Suns, Bucks and a facilitating fourth team. Phoenix would receive Jimmy Butler. Milwaukee would receive Bradley Beal. Miami would receive Khris Middleton. Facilitator takes on salary.
what in the absolute hell are the Bucks doing?
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - SleepingHero - 01-22-2025
(01-21-2025, 09:43 PM)Jym Wrote: what in the absolute hell are the Bucks doing?
Blowing it up?
I honestly don't understand why they think a Lillard+Beal backcourt fits.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - SkenfromLMF - 01-22-2025
Is Beal healthier or rather more durable than Middleton??
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - HoosierDaddyKid - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 12:55 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Is Beal healthier or rather more durable than Middleton??
They're both injury prone as they've gotten older. I'd rather have Middleton personally, I think he's a better overall player.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Ghost of Podkolzin - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 12:55 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Is Beal healthier or rather more durable than Middleton??
Middleton has diminished far greater from injury than Beal. Right now, Beal is a much better player. I just don't understand why MIL would want to have 3 max players...
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - HoosierDaddyKid - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 01:06 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Middleton has diminished far greater from injury than Beal. Right now, Beal is a much better player. I just don't understand why MIL would want to have 3 max players...
Your opinion, you're entitled to it.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Chicagojk - 01-22-2025
Hear suspending Butler for two games due a missed flight
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Chicagojk - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 05:12 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Hear suspending Butler for two games due a missed flight
I am typically pro player, but this really bothers me. He is making 50 million this year and has a player option for 50 million. Be a pro. Sure, it is disappointing he wasn't extended. It wouldn't have been an issue if he was 30, but he isn't. You can be disappointed and make it known you want to be elsewhere, but be a pro. A contract is something to be honored. After the season, you can say screw you to Miami. But if you pick up the player option, it is on him to be a pro.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Jym - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 05:28 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am typically pro player, but this really bothers me. He is making 50 million this year and has a player option for 50 million. Be a pro. Sure, it is disappointing he wasn't extended. It wouldn't have been an issue if he was 30, but he isn't. You can be disappointed and make it known you want to be elsewhere, but be a pro. A contract is something to be honored. After the season, you can say screw you to Miami. But if you pick up the player option, it is on him to be a pro.
And I feel like it's going to be a Allen Iverson situation when he drops a level
he won't be able to accept it and will hurt more than he helps
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Chicagojk - 01-23-2025
plot twist:
Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
Sources: A Milwaukee Bucks, Bradley Beal connection is nonexistent. #haynesbriefs
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Nowitzki Way - 01-23-2025
(01-23-2025, 11:12 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: plot twist:
Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
Sources: A Milwaukee Bucks, Bradley Beal connection is nonexistent. #haynesbriefs
Beal might single handedly control the entire trade deadline and in turn alter the outcome of the season.
No one wants him, and for teams that would take him for salary, he wont approve a trade there. Interesting.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - DallasMaverick - 01-23-2025
(01-23-2025, 11:50 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: Beal might single handedly control the entire trade deadline and in turn alter the outcome of the season.
No one wants him, and for teams that would take him for salary, he wont approve a trade there. Interesting.
I’ll bet he’s pretty happy about that contract he signed!
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - DallasMaverick - 01-23-2025
OK, amateur GM’s.
Under the current CBA, which is more damaging to your team?
1. Overpay to re-sign your player, or
2. Let him walk for nothing.
In the old days, we’d probably choose to overpay, recognize that we have a negative contract, but one that can be traded for another overpaid player that fits our needs better.
But now?
Those trades are much harder to find and execute than before.
I think I’d argue that it’s better, long-term, to let them walk for nothing.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Mavs2021 - 01-23-2025
(01-23-2025, 03:24 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: OK, amateur GM’s.
Under the current CBA, which is more damaging to your team?
1. Overpay to re-sign your player, or
2. Let him walk for nothing.
In the old days, we’d probably choose to overpay, recognize that we have a negative contract, but one that can be traded for another overpaid player that fits our needs better.
But now?
Those trades are much harder to find and execute than before.
I think I’d argue that it’s better, long-term, to let them walk for nothing.
Age is the biggest factor imho. Can´t overpay for 30+ (or injury-prone/420) players anymore. Butler, Beal, McCollum, Ingram, Middleton. No takers. Lavine rehabbed his value, but the knees will also hurt his value, but at least he´s not immovable anymore.
Butler is completely crazy, if he thinks he´ll get more per year than his age. I think this might be the end for him. Only question how much of his remaining contract Miami will pay and how much they´ll fine away.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - HoosierDaddyKid - 01-24-2025
https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1882527811296223516
Memphis is the only team Jimmy Butler
does not want to play for it seems.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - Mavs2021 - 01-24-2025
(01-24-2025, 08:26 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1882527811296223516
Memphis is the only team Jimmy Butler
does not want to play for it seems.
Makes sense. When you are a whiny tantrum throwing veteran that likes to take out his personal problems on his young co-stars, you want nothing to do with J-AR15 Morant.
RE: Jimmy Butler Watch - SleepingHero - 01-24-2025
(01-24-2025, 09:31 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Makes sense. When you are a whiny tantrum throwing veteran that likes to take out his personal problems on his young co-stars, you want nothing to do with J-AR15 Morant.
I am extremely jealous of your ability to come up with hilarious nicknames all the time LOL