(01-05-2025, 07:43 PM)F Gump Wrote: You don't want Thybulle anyhow. He's only desirable when you don't see him play on a regular basis. He would be unplayable in the playoffs because of his utter lack of offense, and sitting on the bench negates any value as a defender.

The defender they should pursue imo is DJJ, who offers more on offense than Thybulle and had a good fit in Mavs scheme, but even he may not be close enough to a 2-way solution.

(01-06-2025, 10:34 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am looking for small upgrades.   He would probably not be in the main rotation, but could be an investment for future.  Tough to find a trade that works out.  Thybulle hasn't been playing with an injury, and Portland fans seem to be pretty positive of him staying there. 

I just think having a bucket getter (Hardy) or a good perimeter defender (Thybulle), I think the good perimeter defender is more important to this team.  

I think DJJ idea is not going to happen.    I actually think that decision DJJ, Clipppers, Mavs is one that worked out good for all parties.    The story on that one is the Mavs were able to pivot quickly and recover.  Old Mavs front office would have been left holding the bag.

(01-06-2025, 04:17 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Because Thybulle still is one of the best lockdown defenders this league has to offer. I think his fit on this Mavs team now is a but murkier than what it was 2 summers ago, but he'd still instantly become our best defender on this squad and that is a valuable trait. 

His offensive game is certainly questionable, although I still think he's underrated. He is highly athletic like DJJ, knows how to cut, and was hovering around 40% on 3s last season on POR until mid January so there is some evidence that he can become at least an average 3pt shooter. 

If Portland had a single vet PF that made sense, I'd be drumming up several hypothetical deals to get Thybulle on the Mavs along with said vet PF. Alas, I don't think it's meant to be as of now.

(01-06-2025, 11:08 AM)Knutsen Wrote: Exactly my kind of thinking - you don’t need Thybulle for 35 minutes each and every game. But for example in a playoff series against the Thunder to make life difficult for SGA? He could be a real difference maker.

(01-06-2025, 11:08 AM)Knutsen Wrote: Exactly my kind of thinking - you don’t need Thybulle for 35 minutes each and every game. But for example in a playoff series against the Thunder to make life difficult for SGA? He could be a real difference maker.

(01-06-2025, 11:13 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think there is an interesting spectrum from Thybulle, to DJJ to Naji.  They are all plus defenders with questionable 3 point shots, but each provides a tradeoff from defense to offense.  I get the impression this FO would prefer a player than can provide value on both sides of the court like Naji than a defensive specialist like Thybulle.  I see it as an either/or because for a deep team that already has a minutes crunch with the only hole being backup power forward, it does not make sense to add Thybulle's 11 mil without replacing an existing rotational player.

(01-06-2025, 12:11 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Why is Thybulle even a discussion when we have Grimes?  Thybulle couldn't see the court in the playoffs.

(01-06-2025, 12:16 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: There a few non-Mav players I love more than Thybulle so whenever I see his name brought up, I take it as my duty to make sure the next 2 pages of convo are devoted to him.

(01-06-2025, 03:05 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @ShamsCharania
Dallas Mavericks star Kyrie Irving has a bulging disc in his back and is expected to miss at least 1 to 2 weeks, sources tell me and @espn_macmahon. There is optimism that treatment over the coming days will provide a return to play target date.

(01-06-2025, 04:05 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Time to waive the White Flagg?

Definitely need to keep the pick now. Too many highly talented players in that draft. Bad back and bad calf.

If we find a way to get Nolan Traore, we´d have the Kyrie replacement sorted.

(01-06-2025, 10:27 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: This team is cooked. I’d sell at the deadline whoever I could, but would aggressively shop Klay. He’s not right for this team. I’d also move Gaff and Maxi for sure.  Really, everyone should be on the block, everyone.  And, if you’re not turning the roster over, then this coaching staff has to go. They’re only good when everything is perfect.

(01-06-2025, 10:33 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: No.
The first order of business is to fire the coach.
He had a good run, but the finals exposed him as much as the Mavs lineup -- he couldn't adjust.

Luka and Kyrie has been bailing him out.

(01-07-2025, 10:00 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I don't get upset with the losses.  I hope they can tread water until we are healthy.  It is not looking promising though.

This isn't fair but man I am having a hard time not being pissed at Luka.  Again, not fair.  We ask him to do so much.  Last year was a grueling year and he deserved to get a way from the game.  Although, in his first game here, I knew right away there was no way he was not going to get injured how he was moving.  Now, maybe this all goes back to getting hurt in training camp.  Luka keeps a lot secret, so maybe he was in fine shape before the injury.  I just have a feeling he wasn't.  Luka needs to take his fitness as a full year job...even if he takes breaks from basketball.  His body type is not like a lot of NBA players.  Also, his in season condition needs to be taken seriously.

Again, maybe I am just letting frustration get the best of me.  Although,  Luka is in his prime but I feel like we haven't seen peak Luka (shape and health) much the last few years.  It is a tad concerning.