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(12-24-2020, 01:10 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]Good loss. We will go 0-3 but it's all about finding some potential and figuring things out. WCS and Brunson should start over Powell and THJ.

Bruson's first half was equally as bad as his good second half.  Besides that, the problem with starting him and pushing THJ to the bench is that THJ sucks as a sixth man.  Not that he was great as a starter tonight, but you could expect the same ill-advised shot selection all season long.   I thought Powell was okay defensively tonight but he gave us nothing on the offensive end.  I'm fine kicking the tires with WCS/Johnson in his stead.
(12-24-2020, 01:17 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]THJ/Powell/Johnson need to be replaced and not with more sideways dross like OPJ.
 

Watching OPJ tonight made me not wanna touch him with a 10ft stick. I know it was one game but he was terrible. Maybe if Chicago threw in Lavine and a couple 1sts. Thats how bad he was
(12-24-2020, 01:17 AM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ] GAME 1: DAL (0-1) @ PHX (1-0) | 102-106 loss
I won't blame Brunson leaving Dallas if this happens all season. The guy has great decision making on the court, enough for a team needing him to start.

Powell had some alley oops that went alley whoops. If he can't covert those throughout the season, his going to need to go back to bench....or end of bench.
The real Powell problem is clearly on offense. It´s like having Erick "brick hands" Dampier back. Return of the 4 on 5 offense.
(12-24-2020, 01:20 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]As long as Luka loves to take those fadeaway threes off the dribble, he will never be a good 3-pt shooter. Those are only shots that the ELITE 3-pt shooters can make at a decent percentage (ex: Steph Curry, Lillard, Booker, etc.) and Luka will never be in that class of shooters because that's not the type of player he is.

You don't really develop that shot to where it becomes a good weapon. Harden has tried and it doesn't work consistently.

Since he's still only 21 and taking those bad shots, you just have to hope he will eventually learn and hope that the coaching staff actually coaches him up. In 5 years, if he's in his prime and still chucking those up, then that will be a huge problem!

It's a tough one as you don't want to take his confidence away but he needs to get his shot percentages up to 35% and you are absolutely correct, he will not do that with fadeaway bombs especially with his usage rate so high and him being out of shape.  That spells a disastrous shooting performance like tonight's 0%.  Those two factors and his constant complaining to the refs are his biggest weaknesses right now.

(12-24-2020, 01:21 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ] 

Watching OPJ tonight made me not wanna touch him with a 10ft stick. I know it was one game but he was terrible. Maybe if Chicago threw in Lavine and a couple 1sts. Thats how bad he was

Welcome to the club friend.  I'm the president and have been putting up the good fight since OPJ was a Wizard.
Ayton 1st quarter fouls: Powell drew 2, Kleber 1. 

Jones 1st quarter fouls: Powell drew 1, Luka 2

So 3/6 big man fouls in the first quarter. good stuff by Powell.
(12-24-2020, 01:20 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]As long as Luka loves to take those fadeaway threes off the dribble, he will never be a good 3-pt shooter. Those are only shots that the ELITE 3-pt shooters can make at a decent percentage (ex: Steph Curry, Lillard, Booker, etc.) and Luka will never be in that class of shooters because that's not the type of player he is.

You don't really develop that shot to where it becomes a good weapon. Harden has tried and it doesn't work consistently.

Since he's still only 21 and taking those bad shots, you just have to hope he will eventually learn and hope that the coaching staff actually coaches him up. In 5 years, if he's in his prime and still chucking those up, then that will be a huge problem!
With Bubble Luka this is probably still a win. Luka right now is somewhere between rookie and sophomore Luka in terms of shape. Brunson in comparison looks like in the best shape of his life. Being more lean/bulkier/muscular.


Luka out of shape = more 3's in crunch time. Because chucking is easier than driving relentlessly to the rim. Luka picked the worst offseason to come in out of shape, with KP being out to start the season. You just cant play your way into shape in 3 preseason games, this will likely take 10-20 games, if not way more ...

And not too mention that his jumper will prolly suffer being out of shape, if his legs leave him late in games.
REACTIONS

  • Luka is still incredibly immature and looks overweight. Three point shot isn't looking improved, but he looks more confident at the free throw line.
  • Starting lineup was a disaster in the preseason and was still a disaster.
  • DP is starting to make me nervous.
  • THJ creating his own shot is bad.
  • Maxi was not good.
  • WCS continues to make good things happen everytime he plays. He needs more minutes. RC knows the team has success when he plays (I have heard it from his own mouth!) but still doesn't play him. RC are you trying to lose?
  • I fear the Mavs might not have a shot at home court advantage if RC doesn't make some changes before KP is back.
Maxi & Luka weird 3's, JRicH turn over and stupid foul on Booker,RC decisions to take WCS away and Brunson not making plays. All those lead to kill the end of the game for us.

On the positive note, liked what I've seen from JRich overall, same for Brunson after come back from injury, Luka FT% should be up this year, maybe we will need to wait another year for his 3PT shot, after all it was a shortened off-season.
(12-24-2020, 01:28 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]REACTIONS

  • Luka is still incredibly immature and looks overweight. Three point shot isn't looking improved, but he looks more confident at the free throw line.
  • Starting lineup was a disaster in the preseason and was still a disaster.
  • DP is starting to make me nervous.
  • THJ creating his own shot is bad.
  • Maxi was not good.
  • WCS continues to make good things happen everytime he plays. He needs more minutes. RC knows the team has success when he plays (I have heard it from his own mouth!) but still doesn't play him. RC are you trying to lose?
  • I fear the Mavs might not have a shot at home court advantage if RC doesn't make some changes before KP is back.
 If Carlisle coaches this stupid all year, we are not even getting homecourt in the wildcard games.
If we want to go full on Game 1 overactions:

-I'm disappointed in Maxi. I really thought he'd take another leap with three point shooting. I thought his woes last year might have been caused by expending so much effort on the defensive end that his legs just weren't there on his shot, but I'm starting to think this is who he is. I'm more okay now than ever as using him as a trade asset.
-I think DFS needs to be in the teams long term plans. He keeps showing improvements year-over-year.
-Powell without springs make him borderline unplayable. He was fine on defense but it's not like the Suns big men are all world.
(12-24-2020, 01:12 AM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]PHX made back-to-back, clutch mid-range jumpers from CP3 and Booker that sealed the win. But ANALYTICS!!! 

Oh yeah, and Powell shouldn't get more than 8-10 mins/night, preferably zero.

Always said that this team needs more midrange game. 
It is the most important shot in closing games IMO, you can have all 3 and lay up offense for those 45 minutes, but at some point defense will close the pain and will be hard to attack or create easy 3.
(12-24-2020, 12:30 AM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]Hear me out. 

Is Luka doncic a top 10 nba player?

Is luka doncic the most overrated player in nba history?

Way too early to start doubting him, but his done this before where his having to decide between being The Man and being the man that passes.

Once he loses 20 lbs, conditions into shape, Luka will get back to greatness......














,,,,,,,however, I hope his defense doesn't regress more than it is now. His not hounding them on D and relying too much on his teammates to make up for his defensive lapses.
(12-24-2020, 01:35 AM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ],,,,,,,however, I hope his defense doesn't regress more than it is now. His not hounding them on D and relying too much on his teammates to make up for his defensive lapses.

Most of his defenses lapses are caused by him bitching about not getting calls on the offensive end and being late down the court.  That's inexcusable and needs to be nipped in the bud.  It's also nothing new, sadly.
(12-24-2020, 01:37 AM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Most of his defenses lapses are caused by him bitching about not getting calls on the offensive end and being late down the court.  That's inexcusable and needs to be nipped in the bud.  It's also nothing new, sadly.


Can’t tell you how many times this pissed me off tonight.
(12-24-2020, 01:21 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ] 

Watching OPJ tonight made me not wanna touch him with a 10ft stick. I know it was one game but he was terrible. Maybe if Chicago threw in Lavine and a couple 1sts. Thats how bad he was

You should read Bulls fans take on him.  It will make you lol.

They clown him routinely and say he moves like a 35 yo man or that he got fat.  Yet Mavs fans are dying to bring him to Dallas.
The Mavs offense has been discombobulated ever since Powell entered the starting lineup. He has no business being a starter or getting more than 10 minutes. WCS needs to start until KP gets back.
I blame Wesley Matthews for this loss
(12-24-2020, 01:53 AM)Playmaker Wrote: [ -> ]The Mavs offense has been discombobulated ever since Powell entered the starting lineup.

See I can't agree with that take. I don't think Powell is the SOLE reason why the Mavs offense is DOA.  Sure, he's definitely not doing Powell things. His screens have been solid but he isn't a lob threat at all. His defense has overall been bad. He has no outside game etc. It's all been beaten to death.


I think the main reason the offense looks so out of sorts mainly starts with Luka. He has not looked like his old self. Which is crazy to type out because he just dropped 32/8/5. Sure he's getting his numbers, but it looks like he has to work 3 times as hard to get them. I think it's a combination of defenses trying new things, and the fact he's woefully out of shape.

Add in THJ thinking he's the second coming of Mitch Richmond, and really no true 2nd option, its no wonder why the offense looks so discombobulated. I think KP coming back will be a godsend. I also think we need a big that can actually be a lob threat. Luka getting into shape will gradually come. Just gotta be patient with him.
(12-24-2020, 01:53 AM)Playmaker Wrote: [ -> ]The Mavs offense has been discombobulated ever since Powell entered the starting lineup.  He has no business being a starter or getting more than 10 minutes.  WCS needs to start until KP gets back.

Is that you Derek Harper?
(12-24-2020, 02:08 AM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ]Is that you Derek Harper?


I mean Fuerza1 is most definitely Jalen Brunson so I wouldn't be shocked if Harp was here.
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