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			<title><![CDATA[Zigzag and Fifteenth Conversation]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=3140</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2024 21:55:27 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=37">fifteenth</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[OK Mr. Zag, what's up. What do you want to talk about?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[youzigizag and fifteenth's conversation]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=3141</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:40:13 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Doesnt Bell's Inequality Theory prove that the World is unpredictable?<br />
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I further that theory, some argue is the greatest revelation in science, to suggest that randomness is not random, but flip flops to take advantage of the subject.<br />
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Going further, assuming I am the subject, there is a high likely-hood that my prediction would become wrong so that I lose. <br />
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Speed kills.  I dont gamble.  But existence is a thing and I do have to play along as though its real.<br />
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I watch for highlights...and assume the team I like will lose to gaslight me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Doesnt Bell's Inequality Theory prove that the World is unpredictable?<br />
<br />
I further that theory, some argue is the greatest revelation in science, to suggest that randomness is not random, but flip flops to take advantage of the subject.<br />
<br />
Going further, assuming I am the subject, there is a high likely-hood that my prediction would become wrong so that I lose. <br />
<br />
Speed kills.  I dont gamble.  But existence is a thing and I do have to play along as though its real.<br />
<br />
I watch for highlights...and assume the team I like will lose to gaslight me.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Should Kammrath continue to be a moderator/admin?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 13:15:25 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[So recently there has been a lot of angst expressed toward me (Kammrath) as moderator/admin.<br />
<br />
I only chose to step up and moderate/admin around here in the hopes of creating a place for us fans to gather when we lost our last place to gather. This was envisioned as a fan-driven site, free from any corporate interests. But in the move, you the fans didn't get a choice in who would be your moderators and admins (it was chaotic in the move and we just had to make things happen). So here is your chance (at least with me) to voice your opinion.<br />
<br />
<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>If y'all want me to continue to moderate/admin, then I will be glad to continue and do my best to make this a place to gather and talk Mavs. BUT I will do so while continuing to express my honest opinions (no matter how unpopular they may be). I am not interested in ceasing to be a fan with real opinions on here. I will continue to moderate/admin in the ways I have been.<br />
</li>
<li>If y'all want me to cease to moderate/admin, then I will gladly step down and disappear (don't imagine I will continue on here much, if at all) to spend more quality time with my wife and kids. There will be no hard feelings from me, because moderating and admining is NOT enjoyable and you take a lot of shit from anonymous people with no positive benefits to doing it. So I will not miss it one bit.<br />
</li>
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<br />
So make the choice. Seriously choose what you think is best for this message board and its future. This isn't and shouldn't be about me (so don't make it personal), but about this place being a good place to talk Mavs that is moderated and admined in a way y'all want.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So recently there has been a lot of angst expressed toward me (Kammrath) as moderator/admin.<br />
<br />
I only chose to step up and moderate/admin around here in the hopes of creating a place for us fans to gather when we lost our last place to gather. This was envisioned as a fan-driven site, free from any corporate interests. But in the move, you the fans didn't get a choice in who would be your moderators and admins (it was chaotic in the move and we just had to make things happen). So here is your chance (at least with me) to voice your opinion.<br />
<br />
<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>If y'all want me to continue to moderate/admin, then I will be glad to continue and do my best to make this a place to gather and talk Mavs. BUT I will do so while continuing to express my honest opinions (no matter how unpopular they may be). I am not interested in ceasing to be a fan with real opinions on here. I will continue to moderate/admin in the ways I have been.<br />
</li>
<li>If y'all want me to cease to moderate/admin, then I will gladly step down and disappear (don't imagine I will continue on here much, if at all) to spend more quality time with my wife and kids. There will be no hard feelings from me, because moderating and admining is NOT enjoyable and you take a lot of shit from anonymous people with no positive benefits to doing it. So I will not miss it one bit.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
<br />
So make the choice. Seriously choose what you think is best for this message board and its future. This isn't and shouldn't be about me (so don't make it personal), but about this place being a good place to talk Mavs that is moderated and admined in a way y'all want.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[MISSING: Mavsluvr (his last picture)]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=1633</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2022 16:36:59 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=527">StrandedOnBeauboisHill</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Kind of worried he may be taking a break for a while after the last game thread against the Nugs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Kind of worried he may be taking a break for a while after the last game thread against the Nugs.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Doncic during quarantine days :))]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=505</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 10:17:34 -0400</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[CALLING OUT GRUMPY THE COOKIE]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=295</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2019 00:43:29 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=37">fifteenth</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dude!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Dude!!!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[CALLING OUT FIFTEENTH]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=280</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:43:12 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear my now ex friend fif,<br />
<br />
If you ever edit one of my posts again am going to personally create a character in UFC 3 that looks like you and beat it up with a character that looks like me <br />
<br />
I want my delegates seated! I demand due process!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Dear my now ex friend fif,<br />
<br />
If you ever edit one of my posts again am going to personally create a character in UFC 3 that looks like you and beat it up with a character that looks like me <br />
<br />
I want my delegates seated! I demand due process!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bible Study 2: Genesis 2 (10/28-11/03)]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=120</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 09:57:52 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=37">fifteenth</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[For the next study lets move the story forward slightly. Genesis 1 covered the creation of the world and it's flora while Genesis 2 focuses in on the creation of humans. <br />
<br />
Here's the passage:<br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">4 </span></span></span>These are the generations<br />
of the heavens and the earth when they were created,<br />
in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.</span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">5 </span></span></span>When no bush of the field<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-36a" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">a</span></a>]</span> was yet in the land<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-36b" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">b</span></a>]</span> and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">6 </span></span></span>and a mist<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-37c" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">c</span></a>]</span> was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground— <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">7 </span></span></span>then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">8 </span></span></span>And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">9 </span></span></span>And out of the ground the Lord God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">10 </span></span></span>A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">11 </span></span></span>The name of the first is the Pishon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">12 </span></span></span>And the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">13 </span></span></span>The name of the second river is the Gihon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Cush. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">14 </span></span></span>And the name of the third river is the Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">15 </span></span></span>The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">16 </span></span></span>And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">17 </span></span></span>but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-48d" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">d</span></a>]</span> of it you shall surely die.”</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">18 </span></span></span>Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-49e" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">e</span></a>]</span> him.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">19 </span></span></span>Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-50f" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">f</span></a>]</span> every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">20 </span></span></span>The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-51g" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">g</span></a>]</span> there was not found a helper fit for him. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">21 </span></span></span>So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">22 </span></span></span>And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-53h" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">h</span></a>]</span> into a woman and brought her to the man. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">23 </span></span></span>Then the man said,</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">“This at last is bone of my bones<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>and flesh of my flesh;<br />
she shall be called Woman,<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>because she was taken out of Man.”<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-54i" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">i</span></a>]</span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">24 </span></span></span>Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">25 </span></span></span>And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.</span></span><br />
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If folks are interested enough to keep this going, there will be times where we change up the questions, but for Genesis 2, let's keep the same questions going:<br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Questions</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">1. How would you summarize the meaning of this passage? How would you tell someone verbally what this passage said or meant? </span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2. What does this passage tell us about God?</span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">3. What does this passage tell us about Humanity? </span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">4. If this passage is true, what does it say about how we should live?</span></span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[For the next study lets move the story forward slightly. Genesis 1 covered the creation of the world and it's flora while Genesis 2 focuses in on the creation of humans. <br />
<br />
Here's the passage:<br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">4 </span></span></span>These are the generations<br />
of the heavens and the earth when they were created,<br />
in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">5 </span></span></span>When no bush of the field<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-36a" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">a</span></a>]</span> was yet in the land<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-36b" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">b</span></a>]</span> and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">6 </span></span></span>and a mist<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-37c" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">c</span></a>]</span> was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground— <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">7 </span></span></span>then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">8 </span></span></span>And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">9 </span></span></span>And out of the ground the Lord God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">10 </span></span></span>A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">11 </span></span></span>The name of the first is the Pishon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">12 </span></span></span>And the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">13 </span></span></span>The name of the second river is the Gihon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Cush. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">14 </span></span></span>And the name of the third river is the Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">15 </span></span></span>The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">16 </span></span></span>And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">17 </span></span></span>but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-48d" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">d</span></a>]</span> of it you shall surely die.”</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">18 </span></span></span>Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-49e" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">e</span></a>]</span> him.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">19 </span></span></span>Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-50f" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">f</span></a>]</span> every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">20 </span></span></span>The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-51g" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">g</span></a>]</span> there was not found a helper fit for him. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">21 </span></span></span>So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">22 </span></span></span>And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-53h" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">h</span></a>]</span> into a woman and brought her to the man. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">23 </span></span></span>Then the man said,</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">“This at last is bone of my bones<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>and flesh of my flesh;<br />
she shall be called Woman,<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>because she was taken out of Man.”<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-54i" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">i</span></a>]</span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">24 </span></span></span>Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">25 </span></span></span>And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.</span></span><br />
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If folks are interested enough to keep this going, there will be times where we change up the questions, but for Genesis 2, let's keep the same questions going:<br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Questions</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">1. How would you summarize the meaning of this passage? How would you tell someone verbally what this passage said or meant? </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2. What does this passage tell us about God?</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">3. What does this passage tell us about Humanity? </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">4. If this passage is true, what does it say about how we should live?</span></span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Welcome</span></span> to the first Troll Cave Bible Study. <br />
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This should be fun. I've never tried to do a Bible study on a message board, but the format should actually be well suited for it. Before we jump in to this weeks Bible passage, let me introduce the study and make a few suggestions to help facilitate discussion.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Introduction</span></span><br />
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The Bible is amazing. The Hebrew Scriptures were written over a millennia by countless contributors, some known and many unknown, including prophets, leaders and nameless scribes. It's a beautiful family quilt that has been woven and passed down through generations of ancients Hebrews that tells a rich story that ends like a cliffhanger. The New Testament was written in the decades that followed Jesus' death and resurrection by folks that believed that Jesus moved the story of the Hebrew Scriptures forward. The New Testament closes with an ending that's really a new beginning, but says that this new beginning is in the future, and that folks who want to live out this Story, told by the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament, will be like sign posts, pointing to Jesus as the culmination of the story, and pointing forward to a day when God's Kingdom (promised in the Hebrew Scriptures and inaugurated by Jesus in the New Testament) will be fully realized in a new heavens and a new earth where God is no longer separated from humanity and earth (humanity's domain) is no longer separated from the heavens (God's domain). <br />
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The goal of these Bible studies will be to trace this large story arc of the Bible, and draw out as much from the text as we can while doing so. <br />
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To facilitate the goal I have a suggestion.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Ground Rule</span></span><br />
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Context matters. Many of the lenses through which discussions about the Bible take place these days are lenses that didn't exist when the text was written. For our Bible studies, let's try to stick to what we can glean from the passages themselves. I think I'll start another thread called Theology Free For All where we can discuss the various debates that are wont to arise but that would bog down a Bible study. For these Bible study threads it would be great if we could stick to the text. <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Format</span></span><br />
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Each week I'll post a passage and a few simple questions. Let's each read the passage and start the discussion off by answering the questions, and then let the discussion go from there. <br />
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See one more intro post below, the passage for the week below that, and then our study questions below that.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">One More Introduction</span></span><br />
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Up above I mentioned that the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament form a story. To give you a little tidbit about what I'm talking about:<br />
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The Bible begins with:<br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth...</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">And then it ends with:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">...the Lord God will be their light, and </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">they will reign forever and ever.</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">This is just a small example. It can be seen in other ways too...The Bible presents itself as a story with a beginning and an end.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">So let's start at the beginning of the story...</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">The Creation of the World</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">1 </span></span></span>In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">3 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">4 </span></span></span>And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">5 </span></span></span>God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">6 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be an expanse<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-6a" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">a</span></a>]</span> in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">7 </span></span></span>And God made<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-7b" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">b</span></a>]</span> the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">8 </span></span></span>And God called the expanse Heaven.<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-8c" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">c</span></a>]</span> And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">9 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">10 </span></span></span>God called the dry land Earth,<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-10d" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">d</span></a>]</span> and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">11 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-11e" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">e</span></a>]</span> yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">12 </span></span></span>The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">13 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">14 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-14f" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">f</span></a>]</span> and for days and years, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">15 </span></span></span>and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">16 </span></span></span>And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">17 </span></span></span>And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">18 </span></span></span>to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">19 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">20 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-20g" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">g</span></a>]</span> fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">21 </span></span></span>So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">22 </span></span></span>And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">23 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">24 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">25 </span></span></span>And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">26 </span></span></span>Then God said, “Let us make man<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-26h" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">h</span></a>]</span> in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">27 </span></span></span>So God created man in his own image,<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>in the image of God he created him;<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>male and female he created them.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">28 </span></span></span>And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">29 </span></span></span>And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">30 </span></span></span>And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">31 </span></span></span>And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"> </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"> </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">3 </span></span></span>So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.</span></span></span></span><br />
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1. How would you summarize the meaning of this passage? How would you tell someone verbally what this passage said or meant? <br />
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2. What does this passage tell us about God?<br />
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3. What does this passage tell us about Humanity? <br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Welcome</span></span> to the first Troll Cave Bible Study. <br />
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This should be fun. I've never tried to do a Bible study on a message board, but the format should actually be well suited for it. Before we jump in to this weeks Bible passage, let me introduce the study and make a few suggestions to help facilitate discussion.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Introduction</span></span><br />
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The Bible is amazing. The Hebrew Scriptures were written over a millennia by countless contributors, some known and many unknown, including prophets, leaders and nameless scribes. It's a beautiful family quilt that has been woven and passed down through generations of ancients Hebrews that tells a rich story that ends like a cliffhanger. The New Testament was written in the decades that followed Jesus' death and resurrection by folks that believed that Jesus moved the story of the Hebrew Scriptures forward. The New Testament closes with an ending that's really a new beginning, but says that this new beginning is in the future, and that folks who want to live out this Story, told by the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament, will be like sign posts, pointing to Jesus as the culmination of the story, and pointing forward to a day when God's Kingdom (promised in the Hebrew Scriptures and inaugurated by Jesus in the New Testament) will be fully realized in a new heavens and a new earth where God is no longer separated from humanity and earth (humanity's domain) is no longer separated from the heavens (God's domain). <br />
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The goal of these Bible studies will be to trace this large story arc of the Bible, and draw out as much from the text as we can while doing so. <br />
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To facilitate the goal I have a suggestion.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Ground Rule</span></span><br />
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Context matters. Many of the lenses through which discussions about the Bible take place these days are lenses that didn't exist when the text was written. For our Bible studies, let's try to stick to what we can glean from the passages themselves. I think I'll start another thread called Theology Free For All where we can discuss the various debates that are wont to arise but that would bog down a Bible study. For these Bible study threads it would be great if we could stick to the text. <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Format</span></span><br />
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Each week I'll post a passage and a few simple questions. Let's each read the passage and start the discussion off by answering the questions, and then let the discussion go from there. <br />
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See one more intro post below, the passage for the week below that, and then our study questions below that.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">One More Introduction</span></span><br />
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Up above I mentioned that the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament form a story. To give you a little tidbit about what I'm talking about:<br />
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The Bible begins with:<br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth...</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">And then it ends with:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">...the Lord God will be their light, and </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">they will reign forever and ever.</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">This is just a small example. It can be seen in other ways too...The Bible presents itself as a story with a beginning and an end.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #111111;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">So let's start at the beginning of the story...</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">The Creation of the World</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">1 </span></span></span>In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">3 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">4 </span></span></span>And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">5 </span></span></span>God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">6 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be an expanse<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-6a" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">a</span></a>]</span> in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">7 </span></span></span>And God made<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-7b" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">b</span></a>]</span> the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">8 </span></span></span>And God called the expanse Heaven.<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-8c" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">c</span></a>]</span> And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">9 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">10 </span></span></span>God called the dry land Earth,<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-10d" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">d</span></a>]</span> and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">11 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-11e" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">e</span></a>]</span> yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">12 </span></span></span>The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">13 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">14 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-14f" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">f</span></a>]</span> and for days and years, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">15 </span></span></span>and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">16 </span></span></span>And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">17 </span></span></span>And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">18 </span></span></span>to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">19 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">20 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-20g" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">g</span></a>]</span> fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">21 </span></span></span>So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">22 </span></span></span>And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">23 </span></span></span>And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">24 </span></span></span>And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">25 </span></span></span>And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">26 </span></span></span>Then God said, “Let us make man<span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size">[<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=ESV#fen-ESV-26h" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #b34b2c;" class="mycode_color">h</span></a>]</span> in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”</span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">27 </span></span></span>So God created man in his own image,<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>in the image of God he created him;<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: monospace;" class="mycode_font">    </span></span>male and female he created them.</span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">28 </span></span></span>And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">29 </span></span></span>And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">30 </span></span></span>And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. <span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">31 </span></span></span>And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"> </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2 </span></span></span>And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"> </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">3 </span></span></span>So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.</span></span></span></span><br />
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1. How would you summarize the meaning of this passage? How would you tell someone verbally what this passage said or meant? <br />
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2. What does this passage tell us about God?<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Mike Fisher and Maven/SI]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=52</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:38:26 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have been rather busy recently, so I haven't had to time to really address this. I didn't mean to let this linger as long as it did. The first (less than) two weeks of this whole thing and its existence, Mike Fisher and I were playing phone tag a lot, haha. Mostly my fault, I have a huge workload and my schedule is filled so that I have one class/work and then have fifteen min to get to the next and so on. I appreciate all of your patience with me in various board issues, and also just the overall future development of this site and its longevity and our plans with our logo/name and our association with Mike Fisher. <br />
<br />
I know that some of you are frustrated with the other site at SI. That is precisely why I built this. I did so to help Fish, and to keep the band together. I have been on these boards and lurked a lot, had various aliases that you all are mostly aware of now. I have known(internet kind of known, haha) you all for nearly two decades of my life. I owe all of my experiences and good times and arguments that families have to Mike Fister. He created this community and he worked hard at the various journalist companies he has worked for. <br />
<br />
Working in Media isn't easy. I am personally building a Media Production Company, myself. Qabick Cents Productions. The main site of this one. I intend on it having news, music, films, podcasts, articles on every subject imaginable from sports, to religion/philosophy, to politics, to business, to all entertainment fields, etc. So some of the articles on it now are disproportionately heavy in the religious philosophical stuff, but that is just because I have two great writers in that field that do that now. I am trying to get more sports articles and would LOVE anyone's interest in writing Mavs articles or NBA or any sports article on my main site. Heck, about any subject you are passionate about, so long as you have the writing chops to write a well-written article, and handle some editorial scrutiny for quality, then I would love to have any of you and your interests shared as published articles on my site. Once I see you can write great articles without much help in editing for grammar, and/or you aren't going off the rails too much, and it remains professional? I then get out of my writer's way and let them have the freedom to explore writing what they want to write about. It will continue to grow, and say think of TheRinger. How they have tons of podcasts on all types of subjects. I will continue to find various content producers and musicians and my films I am making etc... <br />
<br />
I am saying this all because I know how hard it is to build and then sustain. I never built this forum to be a form of competition against Mike Fisher. He and I are like cousins. I spoke to him on the phone and I asked him about the logo situation and he approves and likes the idea of the similar logo yet different. So we are in a good communication with him now, and he knows I am on his side to help him and his site as well. I am Mesa Maverick over there right now, but I will create a profile named Magickian over there too. (which btw a quick sidebar... Magic works.. but Magick is better... because the word is just Magician with an extra "k" in there and it is pronounced phonetically the same way.) <br />
<br />
I will begin to post over there and make an announcement there too showing our solidarity in this. I am just so busy, each step sometimes takes me a bit at a time that I can carve in for things. I just held my auditions for my first film yesterday and essentially got my cast, so that is exciting but that is an idea of the things I am working on, and why I am sometimes slow to contribute to posts. Not to mention I am doing a lot of admin work, I am hosting a weekly radio show on KMSA 91.3 FM where I am the Operations Manager, I am working for CMU-TV, I am the Vice President of my Honor Society, I am the Club Advisory Board Representative for Circle K International(a charity), I am in the Film Production Club, AND I am FOUNDING a Trail: Hiking and Running Club on campus as well. I am working on two films of mine, though one will shoot first, I am building and working with three companies, and doing full time school workload with fifteen credits. So yeah... I am busy haha <br />
<br />
We all wouldn't be here without Fish, and I owe that to him, and I made this site for him. Since it will remain autonomous from SI/Maven, we can still be on a good working/family style relationship with one another. The logo and wording and stylings can stay the same, but we should honor Fish the right way too. I would like it if someone would be interested in stepping up to write posts in this forum, for his articles much like things were done at the old sites. So this person would take the responsibility of taking each brand new article that Fish writes over at the main site over there, and making a blog thread post here with the link to the article and we can have a discussion within that thread about the things brought up into the article. If it is NBA and Mavs related it will be posted here, and if it is Cowboys or anything else? it goes in ROTW. <br />
<br />
OR we could create a Cowboy section if that's what yall want to keep it even out of ROTW... but I don't want to blend the Football stuff into this specific NBA forum... so let me know what yall want to do there. <br />
<br />
So then we are posting his article links and starting a thread here and this way some traffic goes back to Fish, and I think we owe that respect to him. <br />
<br />
I know some of you are frustrated, and I am okay with venting... but I am not in opposition of him, and I don't need to attack their boards over there and the styles it is, and I hope we can all move on from doing that as well. We should post in both places. I get this is easier to read format-wise and I am in agreement there, but they are still having some good conversations over there too. So let us all please have some more respect for what they are doing over there too. We can enjoy this site without having to attack their thing. Fish helped bring us all together in the first place, and I know some of you are not fans of his anymore which is odd considering it was always his community from his sites he built, which is why we came... I know the Mavs are the true core of why we are together... but Fish deserves respect and recognition for bringing us together in the first place. So this site will go on and always exist. I will make sure of it. As the years go on, I want the world to keep knowing we are a team with Fish and not against him. <br />
<br />
You all may not always like me neither hahaha I am not perfect. I am busy, so I won't always be instant to respond. I am doing a lot of things too. I know that everyone has been REALLY super nice to me and I appreciate all of the kind words and support I truly do... but we all may argue about Mavs once the season gets going and sometimes I may not be the nicest or best person you like that day hahaha. But that's why we should just remain like a family. Families fight and they argue and they have disagreements... but at the end of the day we sit down together and break bread together. <br />
<br />
Thank you all for coming on this journey with me on this new site. We will continue to grow and I have big plans for this exact Mavs forum, as well as the parent company and main site too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have been rather busy recently, so I haven't had to time to really address this. I didn't mean to let this linger as long as it did. The first (less than) two weeks of this whole thing and its existence, Mike Fisher and I were playing phone tag a lot, haha. Mostly my fault, I have a huge workload and my schedule is filled so that I have one class/work and then have fifteen min to get to the next and so on. I appreciate all of your patience with me in various board issues, and also just the overall future development of this site and its longevity and our plans with our logo/name and our association with Mike Fisher. <br />
<br />
I know that some of you are frustrated with the other site at SI. That is precisely why I built this. I did so to help Fish, and to keep the band together. I have been on these boards and lurked a lot, had various aliases that you all are mostly aware of now. I have known(internet kind of known, haha) you all for nearly two decades of my life. I owe all of my experiences and good times and arguments that families have to Mike Fister. He created this community and he worked hard at the various journalist companies he has worked for. <br />
<br />
Working in Media isn't easy. I am personally building a Media Production Company, myself. Qabick Cents Productions. The main site of this one. I intend on it having news, music, films, podcasts, articles on every subject imaginable from sports, to religion/philosophy, to politics, to business, to all entertainment fields, etc. So some of the articles on it now are disproportionately heavy in the religious philosophical stuff, but that is just because I have two great writers in that field that do that now. I am trying to get more sports articles and would LOVE anyone's interest in writing Mavs articles or NBA or any sports article on my main site. Heck, about any subject you are passionate about, so long as you have the writing chops to write a well-written article, and handle some editorial scrutiny for quality, then I would love to have any of you and your interests shared as published articles on my site. Once I see you can write great articles without much help in editing for grammar, and/or you aren't going off the rails too much, and it remains professional? I then get out of my writer's way and let them have the freedom to explore writing what they want to write about. It will continue to grow, and say think of TheRinger. How they have tons of podcasts on all types of subjects. I will continue to find various content producers and musicians and my films I am making etc... <br />
<br />
I am saying this all because I know how hard it is to build and then sustain. I never built this forum to be a form of competition against Mike Fisher. He and I are like cousins. I spoke to him on the phone and I asked him about the logo situation and he approves and likes the idea of the similar logo yet different. So we are in a good communication with him now, and he knows I am on his side to help him and his site as well. I am Mesa Maverick over there right now, but I will create a profile named Magickian over there too. (which btw a quick sidebar... Magic works.. but Magick is better... because the word is just Magician with an extra "k" in there and it is pronounced phonetically the same way.) <br />
<br />
I will begin to post over there and make an announcement there too showing our solidarity in this. I am just so busy, each step sometimes takes me a bit at a time that I can carve in for things. I just held my auditions for my first film yesterday and essentially got my cast, so that is exciting but that is an idea of the things I am working on, and why I am sometimes slow to contribute to posts. Not to mention I am doing a lot of admin work, I am hosting a weekly radio show on KMSA 91.3 FM where I am the Operations Manager, I am working for CMU-TV, I am the Vice President of my Honor Society, I am the Club Advisory Board Representative for Circle K International(a charity), I am in the Film Production Club, AND I am FOUNDING a Trail: Hiking and Running Club on campus as well. I am working on two films of mine, though one will shoot first, I am building and working with three companies, and doing full time school workload with fifteen credits. So yeah... I am busy haha <br />
<br />
We all wouldn't be here without Fish, and I owe that to him, and I made this site for him. Since it will remain autonomous from SI/Maven, we can still be on a good working/family style relationship with one another. The logo and wording and stylings can stay the same, but we should honor Fish the right way too. I would like it if someone would be interested in stepping up to write posts in this forum, for his articles much like things were done at the old sites. So this person would take the responsibility of taking each brand new article that Fish writes over at the main site over there, and making a blog thread post here with the link to the article and we can have a discussion within that thread about the things brought up into the article. If it is NBA and Mavs related it will be posted here, and if it is Cowboys or anything else? it goes in ROTW. <br />
<br />
OR we could create a Cowboy section if that's what yall want to keep it even out of ROTW... but I don't want to blend the Football stuff into this specific NBA forum... so let me know what yall want to do there. <br />
<br />
So then we are posting his article links and starting a thread here and this way some traffic goes back to Fish, and I think we owe that respect to him. <br />
<br />
I know some of you are frustrated, and I am okay with venting... but I am not in opposition of him, and I don't need to attack their boards over there and the styles it is, and I hope we can all move on from doing that as well. We should post in both places. I get this is easier to read format-wise and I am in agreement there, but they are still having some good conversations over there too. So let us all please have some more respect for what they are doing over there too. We can enjoy this site without having to attack their thing. Fish helped bring us all together in the first place, and I know some of you are not fans of his anymore which is odd considering it was always his community from his sites he built, which is why we came... I know the Mavs are the true core of why we are together... but Fish deserves respect and recognition for bringing us together in the first place. So this site will go on and always exist. I will make sure of it. As the years go on, I want the world to keep knowing we are a team with Fish and not against him. <br />
<br />
You all may not always like me neither hahaha I am not perfect. I am busy, so I won't always be instant to respond. I am doing a lot of things too. I know that everyone has been REALLY super nice to me and I appreciate all of the kind words and support I truly do... but we all may argue about Mavs once the season gets going and sometimes I may not be the nicest or best person you like that day hahaha. But that's why we should just remain like a family. Families fight and they argue and they have disagreements... but at the end of the day we sit down together and break bread together. <br />
<br />
Thank you all for coming on this journey with me on this new site. We will continue to grow and I have big plans for this exact Mavs forum, as well as the parent company and main site too.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[In Relevance of Mak]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=44</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:32:35 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=10">ItsGoTime</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[In Offense of Mak]]></title>
			<link>https://www.mavsboard.com/showthread.php?tid=43</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:06:42 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=56">Mak</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[In Defense of Mak]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:31:32 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.mavsboard.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=37">fifteenth</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Mak will probably be shocked that I'm defending him since we've had some dust ups in the past. I've inspired him to ban me and a couple of my aliases in the past. Some of us just don't like the principle (or lead Mod), and unfortunately, I've been a little bit like that at times (my bad).</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Sorry about all that Mak (although...there is one joke alias and post that I was particularly proud of, and I think you didn't know it was me, and it got banned quickly...but if we can look back and laugh now because we're old and stuff, then I'll remind you of it, if you're interested).</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">But here's the deal:</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">We move to a new Forum, start fresh, Mak comes out of the gate offering nothing but respectfully written posts, light hearted humor and </span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">offers to help the community, and in return he starts getting flak from people. It's bad form imho. Give the dude a break. He's not even the principle anymore, so get over it.  </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">And I'm not a MOD, but if I were, I'd ban folks very sparingly, but, I'd certainly ban, or not activate, any attempt at a username of the form "postername_sucks". It's just juvenile and pretty sorry. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">New forum, new season, new day, get off Mak's back!</span></span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Mak will probably be shocked that I'm defending him since we've had some dust ups in the past. I've inspired him to ban me and a couple of my aliases in the past. Some of us just don't like the principle (or lead Mod), and unfortunately, I've been a little bit like that at times (my bad).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">Sorry about all that Mak (although...there is one joke alias and post that I was particularly proud of, and I think you didn't know it was me, and it got banned quickly...but if we can look back and laugh now because we're old and stuff, then I'll remind you of it, if you're interested).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">But here's the deal:</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">We move to a new Forum, start fresh, Mak comes out of the gate offering nothing but respectfully written posts, light hearted humor and </span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">offers to help the community, and in return he starts getting flak from people. It's bad form imho. Give the dude a break. He's not even the principle anymore, so get over it.  </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">And I'm not a MOD, but if I were, I'd ban folks very sparingly, but, I'd certainly ban, or not activate, any attempt at a username of the form "postername_sucks". It's just juvenile and pretty sorry. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size">New forum, new season, new day, get off Mak's back!</span></span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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