MacMahon: Mavs to explore trade market for Davis, „plotting to pivot to the future“

[Dirknows]

He is a top 20 player when healthy, but he is an older player with health issues on a massive contract and teams have been a lot more cautious with that since the latest CBA.  A 20 year old number one pick has massive value, even if he doesn't have the upside of most number one picks.  I think a trade with Atlanta is more likely to include Trae Young than Risacher.

I don’t think we would get Risacher for AD, I’m speaking more towards the people who think all we’ll get is salary relief. In that case better to hold onto him and still tank to get the best 26 pick.

[Nowitzki Way]

Keep it simple...KP/Risacher for AD/Powell.  Gets us under the first apron.  Keeps Atlanta $800k under it.  

I do think if we end up trading AD, it will look something like you outlined.  Expiring contracts and a young player(s) with limited upsides.  Preferably more upside than Max Christie if we're comparing trades. But i'd hope we get some draft picks too. 

i saw today that we're probably looking at something similar to the KD trade vs a huge Gobert type haul.  No team is giving up four or five 1st rounders.  We can all agree on. But i'm hoping we can get more than the Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, (1) first rounder package.

[JAYJAYBEE5]

Dirk would make no sense in that kind of role and you want to hire the guy that passed on Luka to draft Bagley?

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[Dirknows]

I do think if we end up trading AD, it will look something like you outlined.  Expiring contracts and a young player(s) with limited upsides.  Preferably more upside than Max Christie if we're comparing trades. But i'd hope we get some draft picks too. 

i saw today that we're probably looking at something similar to the KD trade vs a huge Gobert type haul.  No team is giving up four or five 1st rounders.  We can all agree on. But i'm hoping we can get more than the Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, (1) first rounder package.

Idk, a 23 year old former number 2 pick who averaged 21 points, a solid veteran 3 and D guy and the 10th pick in this draft would be a pretty good haul.

[JamesConway912]

Memphis might be an option as well. They have a bunch of picks and AD should be a great fit alongside JJJ.

Perkins „reported“ that DET is very interested as well. Take it for whatever its worth. 

Chicago is also linked regularly.

If it wasnt for the Ja Morant-mess I would have been pretty  sure that hes an option there but it’s hard to really get a read on them.

I would cerainly prefer another lottery pick, ideally from a team that’s always a candidate to blow up entirely sooner or later (like Memphis, Sacramento, Chicago or New Orleans).

BTW:

Stein reported that Gafford has received some interest. He also states that while the Mavs arent looking to move Kyrie there might become a point where an offer is too good to pass up given their poor draft pick situation.

[cow]

Memphis might be an option as well. They have a bunch of picks and AD should be a great fit alongside JJJ.

Perkins „reported“ that DET is very interested as well. Take it for whatever its worth. 

Chicago is also linked regularly.

If it wasnt for the Ja Morant-mess I would have been pretty  sure that hes an option there but it’s hard to really get a read on them.

I would cerainly prefer another lottery pick, ideally from a team that’s always a candidate to blow up entirely sooner or later (like Memphis, Sacramento, Chicago or New Orleans).

BTW:

Stein reported that Gafford has received some interest. He also states that while the Mavs arent looking to move Kyrie there might become a point where an offer is too good to pass up given their poor draft pick situation.

May we be patient enough to get to this point with all of our trades.

[Chicagojk]

Davis is tricky. Personally I am in the mindset of keeping him. Get him healthy and play him at center. Worst case is you deal with the injuries until he comes off the books which clears your cap before cooper hits his next contract. On the other hand, I look at a team like Houston and think if we can ever get to that level with AD and I am not sure. Tricky situation. So I think first step is get him healthy and have him play well for a month(s), then you can see how it fits and have a better idea what direction you want to go. Don’t rush anything.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Yes, don't trade him just for the hate on Harrison... After a stint of 20/25 games his value will return high as ever (of course not Doncic level).

[loki]

Davis is tricky.  Personally I am in the mindset of keeping him.  Get him healthy and play him at center.  Worst case is you deal with the injuries until he comes off the books which clears your cap before cooper hits his next contract.  On the other hand, I look at a team like Houston and think if we can ever get to that level with AD and I am not sure.  Tricky situation.  So I think first step is get him healthy and have him play well for a month(s), then you can see how it fits and have a better idea what direction you want to go.  Don’t rush anything.

Do you deal Gafford instead if AD is kept? Hard to get everyone the minutes they deserve if AD/Lively/Gafford ever happen to stay relatively healthy. There's also the massive luxury tax payment looming next season due to the repeater tax if they can't shed some salary.

[Dirknows]

Do you deal Gafford instead if AD is kept? Hard to get everyone the minutes they deserve if AD/Lively/Gafford ever happen to stay relatively healthy. There's also the massive luxury tax payment looming next season due to the repeater tax if they can't shed some salary.

The problem is AD is convinced he is a 4.

[loki]

The problem is AD is convinced he is a 4.

I know everyone says this, but I think it's completely irrelevant. He's never thrown a fit or refused to play center. He'll play where the coach tells him.

[Winter]

I know everyone says this, but I think it's completely irrelevant. He's never thrown a fit or refused to play center. He'll play where the coach tells him.

I agree with this. When we acquired AD, we had two centers and no Cooper Flagg. There was no good reason initially not put him at PF.

I wonder now if Kidd will see some benefit of playing AD at center. If you're going to trade him, show him off at his best position.

[Chicagojk]

Do you deal Gafford instead if AD is kept? Hard to get everyone the minutes they deserve if AD/Lively/Gafford ever happen to stay relatively healthy. There's also the massive luxury tax payment looming next season due to the repeater tax if they can't shed some salary.

It is real tricky and I am not sure I have an answer.   It might be something you keep all and just evaluate.  Not the ideal situation with playing time but I would hate to move Gafford only to decide you want to move AD later.  

I hope they find a way to move Klay for an expiring at some point.  I would like to see Klay on a contender.  Whether that type of deal is possible, I am not sure.

[JAYJAYBEE5]

I wouldn't mind Dumont changing it all up and going after a guy like Hubert Davis as head coach and finding a new young gm from the college ranks.

[mvossman]

I wouldn't mind Dumont changing it all up and going after a guy like Hubert Davis as head coach and finding a new young gm from the college ranks.

The GM should be handling coaching hires.

[F Gump]

The GM should be handling coaching hires.

They aren't looking to change coaches anyhow. So it's not even something to debate.

[DanSchwartzgan]

A 20 year old number one pick has massive value, even if he doesn't have the upside of most number one picks.  I think a trade with Atlanta is more likely to include Trae Young than Risacher.

I saw another Atlanta proposal from a guy on YouTube.  It was more in line with the folks who want picks as the main compensation of an AD trade.  The deal was KP, NAW and two picks.  One would be in 26 and one would be in 27.

Don't hold me to this, but I think Atlanta has 2 picks this year with a convoluted mess of swaps and protections.  One pick is the best of NO and MIL.  It would be #2 right now.  I doubt they give that up, though they might give it up with protections.  Atlanta also gets the least favorable of their own and the SA pick but there are swaps on swaps that tie Utah, Minnesota and Cleveland into this (and not in a favorable way for Atlanta).  This pick is likely in the 20's.

Assuming they make a pick of some kind in 2026, they could also trade the 2027 they own, which is the better of the NOP and MIL picks with protections.  Atlanta might get nothing if both picks land in the top 4.  So, there is risk to that pick not being very good as well.  I think the key to such a deal with Atlanta would be to try to get the better 2026 pick with protections of maybe 1-4 and if it doesn't convey, Dallas gets the other 2026.  Then, on the 2027 Dallas gets an unprotected 2029 from Atlanta if neither of the NO and MIL picks convey in 2027.  Something like that might yield two picks the next two years in the mid to late lottery, but might also yield a 2026 pick in the 20's and an unprotected pick in 2029.  It would certainly add some intrigue to the draft lottery.

FWIW, I would kind of like a NAW/Christie rotation at the two...especially if you could move Klay for value.

[Chicagojk]

Isn't the KD trade package the floor for AD? gamble on former high pick, lottery pick and solid veteran?

KD has been more healthy but is also 5 years older and has had the more serious injuries. I don't think I would accept anything lower than that type of package. AD will need to be healthy and have a run of good play, but that would be my floor.

Also, if you are are getting picks back, might be better to move him to the west. As we know a poor timed injury can derail a season pretty quickly in the west

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Memphis might be an option as well. They have a bunch of picks and AD should be a great fit alongside JJJ.

Perkins „reported“ that DET is very interested as well. Take it for whatever its worth. 

Chicago is also linked regularly.

If it wasnt for the Ja Morant-mess I would have been pretty  sure that hes an option there but it’s hard to really get a read on them.

I would cerainly prefer another lottery pick, ideally from a team that’s always a candidate to blow up entirely sooner or later (like Memphis, Sacramento, Chicago or New Orleans).

BTW:

Stein reported that Gafford has received some interest. He also states that while the Mavs arent looking to move Kyrie there might become a point where an offer is too good to pass up given their poor draft pick situation.

I really don't see Detroit being interested in AD.  They would have to give up some of their core players, and they are a young, physical, athletic team that has depth.  They could use a consistent #2 wing scorer behind Cade.  Duren is having a breakout year; they just got Ivey back, and they play great defense.  I don't see them messing with the chemistry they've established.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Isn't the KD trade package the floor for AD?  gamble on former high pick, lottery pick and solid veteran?

KD has been more healthy but is also 5 years older and has had the more serious injuries.  I don't think I would accept anything lower than that type of package.  AD will need to be healthy and have a run of good play, but that would be my floor.

Also, if you are are getting picks back, might be better to move him to the west.  As we know a poor timed injury can derail a season pretty quickly in the west

Yes, i think AD has more value than KD... That package is the floor, but i prefer to keep him instead a trade for something like Green, Brooks and 1FRP.