AROUND the NBA: Pat Bev Suspended 4 Games Next Season| PHX Fires Vogel - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: AROUND the NBA: Pat Bev Suspended 4 Games Next Season| PHX Fires Vogel (/showthread.php?tid=2171) Pages:
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RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - youzigizag - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 12:13 PM)ballsrchr Wrote: I don't think Luka dribbles the air out of the ball--except when he has to. His sole intention is to win at basketball. As he gets better players around him he is providing them with more and better opportunities to score and win. If Luka is rolling, though...what the hell...let him go. He'll still find players around him that are open. Even though this is a team game, there will always be that one best player. Who should we play? I dont want to argue about the lack of talent on those teams, if Luka was sending a message to FO or if it was by the FO/Coaching staffs demands. I think its bad for basketball as a product if widely used and frequently used around the League. My opinion is that it should be employed sparingly during the regular season. No need to argue semantics about "dribbling the air out of the ball" as its a phrase I got from this very website. No need to act like you all have never seen poster frustrated with that style of play or act like you have not seen post from posters thinking the newer, up tempo offense is refreshing compared to Rick-ball. Getting back to the topic...I think Jalen, KP, Dejaunte have valid points about that style on a regular basis. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - DallasMaverick - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 12:35 PM)youzigizag Wrote: I dont want to argue about the lack of talent on those teams, if Luka was sending a message to FO or if it was by the FO/Coaching staffs demands. Kinda fascinating how a particular “style” of basketball can be viewed as inherently “bad” or “boring” by some, and “efficient”, “purposeful”, and perhaps even “beautiful” by others. I tend to think that winning is beautiful, regardless of the style employed. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Scott41theMavs - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 11:21 AM)youzigizag Wrote: LeBron used to be the best on the planet and he never dribbled the air out of the ball for 20 seconds a possession like Luka did for at least 3 full seasons(19/20, 20/21, 21/22). I actually don't think heliocentrism, which until very, very recently was a major problem for this team, is still a problem. The FO put the right talent around Luka, and he is sharing the ball with Kai and to some extent with Exum. In massive contrast to what you have said here, I would be quite dismayed if the Mavs went back to a heliocentric all-Luka approach, because that's not what put them on a winning roll up to game 80. What they need to do is keep playing the way they have. I'm not confident of a Mavs Larry this year because 1) the team has no depth - as I have written here earlier, if any one of Luka, Kyrie, or Exum, or any two of Landlord, DLive, PJ, DJJ, or Maxi, goes down, the Mavs will be in Cancun within two or three more games. Their run will be over, because zero of guys 9-15 on the roster can be trusted with regular minutes; and 2) they're missing at least one (if not two or three) more piece - a reliable third scorer who can create his own shot (not the "Landlively is our third scorer" horsepucky), who is ideally also a POA defender (can be supplemented with another player if not), and even more, someone who can run the offense. If we lose DJJ, that will be another piece we need to replace. Luka-Kyrie-PJ-DLive-Landlord-Exum is an excellent, winning core. They will need to keep building around them. If they address some of the holes this offseason, I think the Mavs will be a 60-win team and championship favorites. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - youzigizag - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 01:54 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Kinda fascinating how a particular “style” of basketball can be viewed as inherently “bad” or “boring” by some, and “efficient”, “purposeful”, and perhaps even “beautiful” by others. I think you agree with me and just want to be Devil's advocate. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - youzigizag - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 02:59 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I actually don't think heliocentrism, which until very, very recently was a major problem for this team, is still a problem. The FO put the right talent around Luka, and he is sharing the ball with Kai and to some extent with Exum. In massive contrast to what you have said here, I would be quite dismayed if the Mavs went back to a heliocentric all-Luka approach, because that's not what put them on a winning roll up to game 80. What they need to do is keep playing the way they have. Luka has changed, this year mostly. But...does that mean players around the league think its permanent or that things cant go back to Rick-ball? I think there still may be a stigma that takes a little while to wear off about Luka/Rick-ball. And yeah...I agree...didnt work for Harden and didnt work for Luka. Seems to be a pain in the rear to find guys to fit perfectly for that system. Then there is the negative stigma about that style that could turn FA's away from us. I hope that style is used sparingly during the regular season. Current style is so so much more entertaining than Rick-ball(nothing against Rick as a coach). RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Chicagojk - 04-19-2024 tough week for the Porter family. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39976733/coban-porter-brother-nuggets-star-sentenced-fatal-crash RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Mavs2021 - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 05:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: tough week for the Porter family. Probably tougher for the family of the woman he killed. If the Heat win two games against Boston, they should hold an impromptu HOF induction ceremony for Spoelstra. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-19-2024 Have to give the Heat credit, that culture is real. I thought the Bulls would take this one with Butler and Rozier out. Bulls look like a totally different team than the one that beat Atlanta down. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - SleepingHero - 04-19-2024 Brandon Ingram with a redemption game so far. Kings look like a totally different team vs. when they played the Warriors. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Scott41theMavs - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 10:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Brandon Ingram with a redemption game so far. Kings look like a totally different team vs. when they played the Warriors. Looks like Keegan Murray pooping the bed is the biggest reason for this, plus defense (the lack thereof). RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - SleepingHero - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 10:48 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Looks like Keegan Murray pooping the bed is the biggest reason for this, plus defense (the lack thereof). As I'm watching the game, I'm blaming Fox. The amount of defensive rotations he's missed has added up to at least 12 points. Offensively he's been super meh so far. Murray is cold as ice too. But is he the guy for the Kings? He's one of their top 4 guys, but if the Kings are relying on Murray to push them over the edge against a Zion-less Pelicans then they have a problem. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - SleepingHero - 04-19-2024 Side note, Davion Mitchell is a winner. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - SleepingHero - 04-19-2024 When the Kings keep making Harrison Barnes shoot contested mid range shots to try and comeback down 14 RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - MFFL - 04-19-2024 (04-19-2024, 06:29 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Probably tougher for the family of the woman he killed. Fuck him. Porter was speeding and had a blood alcohol level of .19, more than twice the legal limit of .08. He deserves a lot more time than that. According to his statement "It wasn't the first time I chose to drink and drive." RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Mavs2021 - 04-20-2024 I have to say I was/am more worried about the Pelicans than the Kings or Thunder in a potential round two. I really hope the Thunder use the Zion window to eliminate the Pelicans. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - Knutsen - 04-20-2024 (04-19-2024, 10:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: As I'm watching the game, I'm blaming Fox. The amount of defensive rotations he's missed has added up to at least 12 points. Offensively he's been super meh so far. Basically we ended the Kings season a couple of weeks ago. They never recovered from those two crucial home losses and weren‘t the same team afterwards, enhanced by the unfortunate injury of Monk that happened in the first game against us. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - HoosierDaddyKidd - 04-20-2024 https://twitter.com/CAlmanza1007/status/1781544871616016492 Larry Nance on facing the Thunder. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - fifteenth - 04-20-2024 (04-20-2024, 09:43 AM)HoosierDaddyKidd Wrote: https://twitter.com/CAlmanza1007/status/1781544871616016492 "Immediately clarified he isn't literally betting" LOL. I bet RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - SleepingHero - 04-20-2024 (04-20-2024, 09:43 AM)HoosierDaddyKidd Wrote: https://twitter.com/CAlmanza1007/status/1781544871616016492 No Jontay Porter and no P Diddy within a week of each other is hilarious. RE: AROUND the NBA: Jimmy Butler Expected Out Multiple Weeks due to MCL - omahen - 04-20-2024 Extremely poor shooting in the first playoff game. Both teams well below 30 % from three. Orlando needs THJ instead of G.Harris |