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RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - ItsGoTime - 05-19-2023

(05-19-2023, 10:19 PM)Jym Wrote: -21 in 17 minutes
Ya, if they stuck to starting him there is no doubt in my mind they don’t make it this far.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-19-2023

Boston doesn't have the same vibe as last year, even though on paper they have a better team. Might be different if Udoka was still there, because Mazzula is getting schooled by Spoelstra.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - Mavs2021 - 05-20-2023

(05-19-2023, 09:54 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Spoelstra is the real MVP

Yup. Shows you how much of a joke these "experts" are that he has never won COTY.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 05-20-2023

“That award is dangerous, because that award leads to getting fired the next year,” I’ll pass on that.” - JKidd on Monty Williams firing after winning coach of the year in '22.

So, this is why he wasn't really coaching, but just watching the game like the rest of us.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 05-20-2023

It speaks volumes that I had to look to see that that is, in fact, an actual Kidd quote and not a joke. Did any one see the piece of Mazulla’s post game that TNT had? Basically deflecting, avoiding answering the reporters questions about whether he should’ve doubled Butler or how to get better looks in the 4th. Actually threw his guys under the bus regarding both. Reminded me so much of Kidd. Both are under qualified and unwilling/unable to learn or take responsibility. What happens when you hire a guy based on popularity rather than actual coaching chops.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-20-2023

(05-20-2023, 07:39 AM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: It speaks volumes that I had to look to see that that is, in fact, an actual Kidd quote and not a joke. Did any one see the piece of Mazulla’s post game that TNT had? Basically deflecting, avoiding answering the reporters questions about whether he should’ve doubled Butler or how to get better looks in the 4th. Actually threw his guys under the bus regarding both. Reminded me so much of Kidd. Both are under qualified and unwilling/unable to learn or take responsibility. What happens when you hire a guy based on popularity rather than actual coaching chops.


Budenholzer did the same at his presser. It took Giannis to call him out about why he didn't let him guard Butler, but Bud refused that idea worrying about him getting in foul trouble. At that point in the series, you have to do something to put out the fire...Ironically, it cost him his job.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - DallasMaverick - 05-20-2023

(05-19-2023, 10:13 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Miami finally gave up on not trying to hurt Lowry’s feelings and started bringing him off the bench. Something Phoenix hasn’t figured out with CP3 yet.

At least the Mavs gave up on not trying to hurt Wood's feelings pretty early in the season!


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - ItsGoTime - 05-20-2023

(05-20-2023, 09:37 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: At least the Mavs gave up on not trying to hurt Wood's feelings pretty early in the season!
Not the same effect.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-20-2023

Wood sees himself as a starter. He started at Detroit and Houston. No buy in from him.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - dirkfansince1998 - 05-20-2023

Murray with 26pts. 5min left in the 2nd quarter. Turned it on in the 4th quarter of game two and hasn´t cooled down. Simply cannot miss.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - ItsGoTime - 05-20-2023

I so hope Den sweeps the Lakers.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - SwisherPrice - 05-20-2023

Lakers need Kyrie! Say it with me everyone..."Sign and Trade! Sign and Trade!"


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 05-21-2023

(05-20-2023, 10:14 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Lakers need Kyrie! Say it with me everyone..."Sign and Trade! Sign and Trade!"

As much as I like Kyrie's play (and attitude) so far in Dallas, I'm just waiting for some issue to pop up out of nowhere.
This is what Kyrie does.

Of course I wouldn't want him to walk for nothing.. so yes...
Sign and Trade (IMHo) is the way.

Reaves + Vanderbilt + whoever 

I don't even care if the Mavs don't get a pick as long as Reaves and Vanderbilt are included.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 12:25 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: As much as I like Kyrie's play (and attitude) so far in Dallas, I'm just waiting for some issue to pop up out of nowhere.
This is what Kyrie does.

Of course I wouldn't want him to walk for nothing.. so yes...
Sign and Trade (IMHo) is the way.

Reaves + Vanderbilt + whoever 

I don't even care if the Mavs don't get a pick as long as Reaves and Vanderbilt are included.

Lakers are in a 0-3 hole vs Denver and D-Lo and Schroeder have been horrible getting torched by Murray. I could see Kyrie going there, but I disagree with the compensation of Reeves and Vanderbilt. Lakers will probably hold on to those two. The aforementioned Russell, Schroeder and Beasley will surely be moved.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - Chicagojk - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 05:38 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Lakers are in a 0-3 hole vs Denver and D-Lo and Schroeder have been horrible getting torched by Murray. I could see Kyrie going there, but I disagree with the compensation of Reeves and Vanderbilt. Lakers will probably hold on to those two. The aforementioned Russell, Schroeder and Beasley will surely be moved.

There are some fans of D-LO here.  I am sorry, I just have never seen it.  He is fine as a player.  At moments, he is very good.  But he is the definition of the good player who once you have on your roster, you are always looking to upgrade.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-21-2023

https://twitter.com/BradyHawk305/status/1659954697820594180

https://twitter.com/CyrusTheVirusP/status/1659959331641606148





Stick a fork in the "C's" if the Heat win tonight.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - BigDirk41 - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 05:38 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Lakers are in a 0-3 hole vs Denver and D-Lo and Schroeder have been horrible getting torched by Murray. I could see Kyrie going there, but I disagree with the compensation of Reeves and Vanderbilt. Lakers will probably hold on to those two. The aforementioned Russell, Schroeder and Beasley will surely be moved.

Personally, this is where Nico should play hardball and say no Reeves, no deal. We are going to overpay and max Kyrie anyways. Kyrie has no leverage. If the Lakers want him and Kyrie wants them, they need to pay for that. Otherwise he's a Mav. Any deal needs to start with Reeves and Vanderbilt imo. After getting swept or the gentleman's sweep, LeBron will push for Kyrie. LeBron always gets his way.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - omahen - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:03 AM)BigDirk41 Wrote: Otherwise he's a Mav. 

Its his choosing, not Mavs, he is UFA. As I said many times, I don't think Mavs have great leverage to blackmail anyone, if Kyrie really wants to go. It will not end well, imho. Kyrie could take a discount to sign with Lakers, he could go to a third team with cap space just out of spite or unhappily sign with Mavs just looking to force his way out.  None of these scenarios brings value to Mavs. Their best way is to play as nice as possible and try their best to resign him. 

I think a path for Kyrie to LA is much simpler at TDL than in summer. Leverage will also be higher than, as he will already be under contract. Lakers could resign Reaves (unless a third team offers something ridiculous), Hachimura and whatever other salaries.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - omahen - 05-21-2023

Wow, how tall Wemby really is? Smile

https://twitter.com/NBABeau/status/1660306479608479747

Not really "around the NBA", but close to it Smile

https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/1660287838347247618


RE: AROUND the NBA: Monty Williams Fired. Morant loves guns, suspended by MEM - RoyTarpleysGhost - 05-21-2023

If I was the Lakers GM, I would not trade Reaves straight up for Kyrie. Reaves reminds me of Brunson. He just knows how to play. Plus he's 24 years old and a wing. Plus his annual salary will be half of what Kyrie will command.

Reaves, Vanderbilt, and a 1st I think grossly misjudges Kyrie's value around the league and assumes Lebron is gonna strongarm his franchise into trading for Kyrie. JMO