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RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - Chicagojk - 05-09-2023
Looks like Jalen should have taken that FA meeting with Miami
Miami is really amazing at developing players. Martin, Stus, Vincent are all undrafted. Plus, they 4 other undrafted guys on the roster. I like Herro. Think he is a good player but this run by Miami really makes you wonder if he is a product of their system. I still think he is a good player but I would be weary of trading for him where the Heat got a star back.
I can finally crow a little on Lowry. I thought he would have been really good for the Mavs a few years ago. I had to eat crow as he has not been good for them. He has played really well recently. Just makes a lot of winning plays when he is healthy.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-09-2023
(05-09-2023, 10:20 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Looks like Jalen should have taken that FA meeting with Miami
Miami is really amazing at developing players. Martin, Stus, Vincent are all undrafted. Plus, they 4 other undrafted guys on the roster. I like Herro. Think he is a good player but this run by Miami really makes you wonder if he is a product of their system. I still think he is a good player but I would be weary of trading for him where the Heat got a star back.
I can finally crow a little on Lowry. I thought he would have been really good for the Mavs a few years ago. I had to eat crow as he has not been good for them. He has played really well recently. Just makes a lot of winning plays when he is healthy.
His play really picked up when Spoelstra started bringing him off the bench. His veteran presence really works well with the second unit. Adjustments such as this make Spoe one of the top 3 best coaches in the league, or maybe the best.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - SwisherPrice - 05-09-2023
Celtics are done...Mazzulla is just not ready as a young rookie HC
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-09-2023
(05-09-2023, 08:45 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Celtics are done...Mazzulla is just not ready as a young rookie HC
Boston isn't done yet. Philly has to close them out Thursday. Closeout games are hard to win. If Boston makes 3's, they are tough to beat. Tatum hasn't shot and played well and they shot poorly from 3 tonight. Horford put up a goose egg and didn't score. Give Philly credit, they played well but I could still see this going 7.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - khaled1987 - 05-10-2023
(05-09-2023, 09:39 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Another guy, like Ayton, who can show you significant flashes and then disappear for awhile.
In both cases, we'd say they are serviceable players but paid max money. Their teams were caught over a barrel and forced to overpay rather than let them walk. Now, roster construction is difficult.
...and with the new CBA, it will be even more difficult.
Sometimes it's better to let a serviceable player walk rather than pay max money. Very few teams have the discipline to do that, but I'm betting we'll see more of it in the next couple of years.
The CBA is designed this way the moment the forced rookie contracts.
Max contract is essentially paying & compensating a good player for what he has done in his rookie underpaid contract, not just for the size of the new contract.
You also have to take agents in consideration, you don't want to be a Charlotte or Utah, where your own players know you will try to screw them at first chance and you can't wait to do get out.
Also, values of young and healthy players rarely fade totally in a year, let's see how the likes of Poole or Ayton will get in the trade market
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-10-2023
Brunson not letting the Knicks lose. He's leading the way so far.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - ItsGoTime - 05-10-2023
(05-10-2023, 08:02 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Brunson not letting the Knicks lose. He's leading the way so far.Ya, Mia can’t hit a 3. If that turns around, series over.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-10-2023
(05-10-2023, 08:39 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ya, Mia can’t hit a 3. If that turns around, series over.
It didn't turn around. Knicks live to fight another game. First time Butler looked mortal in these playoffs, and the 3's didn't fall for the Heat when they needed them.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - SleepingHero - 05-11-2023
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1656740997823442947
Ayton ruled out for game 6- rib contusion
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - IamDougieFresh - 05-11-2023
(05-11-2023, 02:28 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1656740997823442947He's played his last game for the Sons.
Ayton ruled out for game 6- rib contusion
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - DallasMaverick - 05-11-2023
Less than 5 years ago...
https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/10/30/18042430/players-as-assets-part-1-who-are-the-nbas-most-valuable
Boy, it's hard to predict what any player will become. Even an established NBA player.
I suggest that there's more randomization in the process (read: Luck) than we normally admit.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-11-2023
I don't know what has happened to Boston. Jason Tatum is having a horrible playoff vs Philly. He had a great regular season averaging over 30 a game, and made 1st team all NBA, but he hasn't shown up the last 3 games. His shot has deserted him and he looks rattled. He has 3 pts on 1-13 shooting and 0-6 from 3. Philly is up 2 73-71 entering the 4th.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - IamDougieFresh - 05-11-2023
Tatum, Harden and Embiid having a fraud off spiderman meme style. Tatum needs a big game 7 to escape a potentially permanent fraud classification. He picked it up a bit in the 4th.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - SwisherPrice - 05-11-2023
Wow Sixers blew it. Another Doc Rivers classic choke in the making?
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - Mavs2021 - 05-11-2023
So Nuggets up 30 and Jokic shooting 83%. Maybe Ayton not that bad, huh.
Though how Landale played 12 minutes in a 24 minute half and is +2, while the team is down 30, should be an X-Files case.
RE: AROUND the NBA: NBA Fines Mavs 750K for tanking - IamDougieFresh - 05-11-2023
(04-17-2023, 12:42 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Grizz - FRAUDS
76ers - FRAUDS that will be exposed round 2
Suns - FRAUDS
One day you guys will just accept my positions as fact.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3 injures groin. Harden drops 45 and steals game 1 - SleepingHero - 05-12-2023
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RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - SleepingHero - 05-12-2023
https://twitter.com/therimreporter/status/1656864489151795202?s=61&t=rkPadt_daenpQ3NDzDCGBA
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - Chicagojk - 05-12-2023
That game was there for Philly last night. Huge credit to Tatum though. He made championship winning plays after a rough shooting night and put the game away. I know who I am going to bet (I don't bet) in game 7. As good as Embid and Harden has been, no one will remember anything if they don't show in game 7. I may be wrong, but last night might have been Philly's chance. I would really love to see Hardy have a similar career developmental path as Maxey.
I didn't watch the PHX and Denver game but it appears I did not miss much. With PHX out now, we have Dallas, PHX and LAC (Minnesota?) as desperate but talented teams this offseason. Maybe we can argue if Dallas is talented, but they do have an elite player. It is going to be real interesting because these teams are feeling the pressure. Different type of pressure, but pressure nonetheless.
RE: AROUND the NBA: CP3, Ayton out game 6. Murray questionable. AD good to go - DanSchwartzgan - 05-12-2023
(05-12-2023, 07:15 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: That game was there for Philly last night. Huge credit to Tatum though. He made championship winning plays after a rough shooting night and put the game away. I know who I am going to bet (I don't bet) in game 7. As good as Embid and Harden has been, no one will remember anything if they don't show in game 7. I may be wrong, but last night might have been Philly's chance. I would really love to see Hardy have a similar career developmental path as Maxey.
I didn't watch the PHX and Denver game but it appears I did not miss much. With PHX out now, we have Dallas, PHX and LAC (Minnesota?) as desperate but talented teams this offseason. Maybe we can argue if Dallas is talented, but they do have an elite player. It is going to be real interesting because these teams are feeling the pressure. Different type of pressure, but pressure nonetheless.
Tatum was absolutely going to be the goat (not the good kind) that ended their season if those shots didn't go in. He was already 1 of 14. Those first two threes changed everything.
It has to be maddening for Phoenix fans. Two years in a row blown out on their own floor to end their season. I think your desperate but talented description is pretty apt. But with play-ins, no VW in next year's draft and teams having to start the season at the minimum salary, it is going to be tougher to rob good players off of bad teams. Seems to me the path is to either over-pay (outgoing talent/assets), pay the market rate for an overpaid guy (example: Ayton) or take financial risks that a player's current team doesn't want to take (Claxton?). Oh, and the free agent class is garbage.