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RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - dirkfansince1998 - 04-22-2023 Grizzlies scored 9pts in the 1st quarter. 3-25 FG. 1-13 from 3. Down 30. I guess that´s it for the night. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - Mavs2021 - 04-23-2023 (04-22-2023, 08:25 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Bucks without Giannis in trouble. Cannot stop Butler and to make things worse even the most disappointing Heat vets are remembering that they used to be quality NBA players. Duncan Robinson is automatic from 3. Lowry looks like his Toronto self. Love playing defense that hasn´t been seen since the Cavs won it all. So to sum up Paul Reed 10/15/2, 50/x/x shooting. Suggested to offer full MLE to challenge 76ers. Rui Hachimura 16/5/0, 60/100/100 shooting. Suggested to trade for him at TDL. Duncan Robinson 20/3/2, 77/83/100 shooting. Suggested trading Bertans for Robinson + Heat #20 pick (Lively). Russell Westbrook 37/6/4, shooting 57/50/x. Suggested trading Westbrook straight up for THJ + Bertans + McGee + Bullock at the TDL. Say what you want, but I would have fixed that whole roster in the last six months. Talent, upside, salary cap structure. Everything. Just not sure whether I would have tanked properly or decided to make the play-offs, which likely happens with Westbrook, Hachimura, DFS and Dinwiddie still on the roster. Either way I still have all our picks and do not have to worry about the potentially franchise killling headache of the Kyrie extension. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - DallasMaverick - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 12:52 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So to sum up Wow! You're brilliant! ...and everyone else is such a schmuck! I see it all so clearly now. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 12:52 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So to sum up I know these are hypotheticals, but do you really think those other teams will even consider your proposals? Not being a jerk, just asking an honest question. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - omahen - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 10:13 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: I know these are hypotheticals, but do you really think those other teams will even consider your proposals? Not being a jerk, just asking an honest question. Let me chime in. Of course not. Mavs didn't have the SRP for Hachimura and he is not near worth an unprotected FRP. Lakers were obviously not willing to trade Westbrook for a bunch of trash. They had very specific players targeting. Miami is obviously also not giving up their assets just to dump Robinson for equally trashy player. Also, it is just so easy to pick one good game from mentioned players while neglecting tens (or even whole seasons) of bad ones. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-23-2023 https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36267178/resilient-westbrook-impresses-suns-clippers-drop-game-4 RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-23-2023 https://hoopshype.com/lists/nets-intel-mikal-bridges-cam-johnson-trade-talks-free-agency-damian-lillard/ RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-23-2023 Mitchell Robinson is dominating Mobley and Allen in the paint. He's getting all the boards and providing the Knicks with premium rim protection.. I've been impressed with the Knicks thus far. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - hakeemfaan - 04-23-2023 The sad part seeing the Lakers and Memphis is that guys like Lonnie Walker, Mo Bamba, Ziaire Williams,and LaRavia would be prospects we would be betting heavily on and touting. Those teams don’t even give those guys minutes because they are so deep. I don’t care if Lindsey is trying to get Nico’s job. All I want is some guy who can evaluate talent correctly. If Nico needs to be fired, so be it. Also Kidd maybe a poor coach but looks like he got it correct over Nico that Wood doesn’t fit in this team. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - dirkfansince1998 - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 01:27 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Also Kidd maybe a poor coach but looks like he got it correct over Nico that Wood doesn’t fit in this team. Kidd designed the scheme. Is Wood not working or is the scheme making it impossible for him to play his best basketball? Never saw any attempts to make adjustments during the season. I would phrase it like this. "Wood was a bad fit for a bad scheme". Wood isn´t the saviour that some proclaimed him to be. And as you stated. Kidd is a poor coach. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - hakeemfaan - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 01:33 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Kidd designed the scheme. Is Wood not working or is the scheme making it impossible for him to play his best basketball? Never saw any attempts to make adjustments during the season. The knock on Wood before the season started was that many teams had tried to unlock his talent and all have failed. Are all those coaches poor or do we have to say at some point that this guy is the problem? Same issue with KP. Was RC a bad coach? The fit just wasn’t there with Luka and it was obvious that he is a one dimensional offensive player. If Kidd was the coach with KP here, people would have blamed him for that as well. I wrote about Wood when they acquired him that this guy has got plenty of chances before and never worked out. I also said that I would do the trade because a low 20s pick for a 20/10 guy is worth taking a chance on to see if his defense can be improved. Kidd can be blamed for a lot of things here. Wrt Wood..no. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - SwisherPrice - 04-23-2023 Randle benched and the Knicks don't even need him to win. Brunson is better than Donovan Mitchell...better PG and shooter RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - Mavs2021 - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 02:31 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Randle benched and the Knicks don't even need him to win. Brunson is better than Donovan Mitchell...better PG and shooter If Giannis doesn´t get back soon, the Knicks are the favourites to make the East finals. They deserve it for their stellar job of drafting and exploiting the worst owner in the league. Cuban/Dolan was always such a healthy relationship build on bilateral stupidity, but then Dolan decided to hire professionals. Imagine that in 12 years you made like three above average draft picks and you still can´t manage to retain the 2nd best player you probably had over the last decade, because you cannot even figure out that he is your 2nd best player. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - BigDirk41 - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 02:31 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Randle benched and the Knicks don't even need him to win. Brunson is better than Donovan Mitchell...better PG and shooter Cuban is so damn STUPID! What an incompetent owner. Can't believe he lost Brunson. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - dirkfansince1998 - 04-23-2023 Paternity test incoming. Brunson is Mitchell´s daddy... RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-23-2023 At least Thibs had the guts to bench him. Most coaches would ride him bad game or not just because he's allegedly their best player. Josh Hart has been one of the best TDL trades in the league this year. Knicks took off after acquiring him. He makes winning plays. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - Jason Terry - 04-23-2023 I think we need a Josh Hart more than we need a Jarrett Allen. Much more RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - Chicagojk - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 03:59 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: I think we need a Josh Hart more than we need a Jarrett Allen. Much more Yes, he has been a favorite of mine for years. In all honesty though, we probably did not have the package for him the last two years. But those types of hard nosed role players who make winning plays are guys we need. I have liked watching the playoffs and identify these guys who would work well on the Mavs. They are available. You just need to identify them. Hartenstein is another who had some really big plays today. The Knicks could have offered more money this offseason. There were reports Hartenstein would have taken the tax payer MLE to stay with the Clippers but they decided to use it on John Wall. So it wasn't a pure money thing. Dallas could have offered a starting role on a playoff contender. Did they even try for him? If so, could they not sell that vision? It could have been a compelling conversation. I won't hit on the Brunson thing. I feel like I have hit that horse so many times. I will just say, Luka is watching. The Mavs better gain Luka's trust this offseason with some good moves. Or I think it is going to get real ugly pretty fast. I hope I am wrong. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - dirkfansince1998 - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 04:07 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Yes, he has been a favorite of mine for years. In all honesty though, we probably did not have the package for him the last two years. But those types of hard nosed role players who make winning plays are guys we need. I have liked watching the playoffs and identify these guys who would work well on the Mavs. They are available. You just need to identify them. Hartenstein is another who had some really big plays today. The Knicks could have offered more money this offseason. There were reports Hartenstein would have taken the tax payer MLE to stay with the Clippers but they decided to use it on John Wall. So it wasn't a pure money thing. Dallas could have offered a starting role on a playoff contender. Did they even try for him? If so, could they not sell that vision? It could have been a compelling conversation. Have to sign those guys before they have their breakthrough. Caruso is a similar case. Available for MLE money (or slightly more). Their next contract is going to be bigger and the Mavs probably don´t want to be the team that pays them 18-20m. Comes down to the main problem that most of us have identified. Player evaluation. RE: AROUND the NBA: Nick Nurse fired. Gobert questionable for game 3 - ItsGoTime - 04-23-2023 (04-23-2023, 04:24 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Have to sign those guys before they have their breakthrough. Caruso is a similar case. Available for MLE money (or slightly more). Their next contract is going to be bigger and the Mavs probably don´t want to be the team that pays them 18-20m.Including our own homegrown ones. They watched JB in practice for 3 years. They didn’t know he was going to break out last year? Kidd came out of training camp saying he was gonna get paid. His camp wanted an extension a month before that. We couldn’t have figured that out? |