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RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/1541875133588971520


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - nash_funk - 06-28-2022

GS killed us with a frontcourt of Looney/Green/Wiggins.  We could better match with Wood/*PF/Finney-Smith.

*PF = Randle or Collins

By the way, Randle (12th), Wood (9th), and Collins (16th) were both top 20 rebounds per 48 minutes last year.

PG - Luka
SG - Dinwiddie
SF - Finney-Smith
PF - Randle or Collins
C - Wood

Assumption here is that Brunson is used to trade for Randle or Collins.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

https://twitter.com/ktfuntweets/status/1541874633145720838


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

https://twitter.com/A_a_ron25/status/1541877020384280578


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1541882362417582080


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - nash_funk - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:14 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/ktfuntweets/status/1541874633145720838

Is there any scenario in which we get back Randle?


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:35 PM)nash_funk Wrote: Is there any scenario in which we get back Randle?


Theoretically....question of whether Nico wants that for team building. 

I personally would just want Reddish + 2023 pick.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Playmaker - 06-28-2022

Reddish+Grimes/Keels+2023 pick....Get it done Nico.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Fuerza1 - 06-28-2022

Knicks can clear up the necessary cap space rather easily. Mavs are screwed. 

Nico is officially on notice.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Kammrath - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:53 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: Knicks can clear up the necessary cap space rather easily. Mavs are screwed. 


Who is taking their players into empty space without getting a 1st in return?


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - F Gump - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:34 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1541882362417582080

PJ wants to get paid. It doesn't look like the Sixers have room under the apron for a 30M offer (the big MLE), but I wouldn't expect PJ to take less.

What's the game plan? Am I missing some obvious move, or are the Sixers still needing to make some things happen?


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Playmaker - 06-28-2022

This will all come down to how much Brunson's camp wants that 5th year.  I think his exist was planned long ago.

If his camp wants that with a player option to hedge against injury.  The Mavs will get something out of this transaction.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - F Gump - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:58 PM)Playmaker Wrote: This will all come down to how much Brunson's camp wants that 5th year.  I think his exist was planned long ago.

If his camp wants that with a player option to hedge against injury.  The Mavs will get something out of this transaction.

Brunson cant get a bigger or longer deal via a SNT. He can only get 5th year in a deal with Mavs.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - Playmaker - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 04:03 PM)F Gump Wrote: Brunson cant get a bigger or longer deal via a SNT. He can only get 5th year in a deal with Mavs.

Ok, Thx.  I forgot about that in SNT's.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - mvossman - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:08 PM)nash_funk Wrote: GS killed us with a frontcourt of Looney/Green/Wiggins.  We could better match with Wood/*PF/Finney-Smith.

*PF = Randle or Collins

By the way, Randle (12th), Wood (9th), and Collins (16th) were both top 20 rebounds per 48 minutes last year.

PG - Luka
SG - Dinwiddie
SF - Finney-Smith
PF - Randle or Collins
C - Wood

Assumption here is that Brunson is used to trade for Randle or Collins.

There is no universe where Brunson gets traded for Collins.  Like none.  Unlikely that Randle was ever on the table either.  I don't really think Randle makes sense here anyways, but it probably doesn't matter.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - F Gump - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 04:18 PM)mvossman Wrote: There is no universe where Brunson gets traded for Collins.  Like none.  Unlikely that Randle was ever on the table either.  I don't really think Randle makes sense here anyways, but it probably doesn't matter.

I think DAL is the one who says no to Randle. NY would love to find a taker and get out from under that contract.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - nash_funk - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 03:38 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Theoretically....question of whether Nico wants that for team building. 

I personally would just want Reddish + 2023 pick.

After the GS ouster, I can't believe they think we're ok with DFS at PF.  Randle is top 5 PF in every category.  Slide DFS to SF and we have a starting frontcourt of Wood/Randle/DFS to compete with anyone.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - loki - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 05:38 PM)nash_funk Wrote: After the GS ouster, I can't believe they think we're ok with DFS at PF.  Randle is top 5 PF in every category.  Slide DFS to SF and we have a starting frontcourt of Wood/Randle/DFS to compete with anyone.

I'd love to move DFS to the 3 if they can find a bigger wing, but I really don't see Randle as the guy. I don't think they can build a championship level defense with him in the frontcourt.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - KillerLeft - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 01:53 PM)michaeltex Wrote: So Brunson gets paid to go to NY and play second banana to Murray instead of Luka? WTF?


Like I was trying to explain to some others in a different thread, you've got that backwards. 

Brunson would have the ball, not Murray. In the NBA, what these guys care about is who has the ball.

(06-28-2022, 05:38 PM)nash_funk Wrote: Wood/Randle/DFS


That combo would be terrible, imho. Randle is neither a screener nor a spacer. In fact, the only good seasons he has ever had was when he was allowed to play as he prefers: facing up with the ball, trying to get downhill off of the dribble. In other words: running the offense.

He is very, very not a fit here.


RE: TRADE & FA RUMORS: Gobert Scrubs UTA from Insta | JC & Dejounte on the move? - KillerLeft - 06-28-2022

(06-28-2022, 05:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: I think DAL is the one who says no to Randle. NY would love to find a taker and get out from under that contract.


Absolutely. The buyer's remorse on Randle has got to be massive. 

Sucks for Brunson if they can't move him. Like Luka, he's a pnr guy who needs a pnr big.