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RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - LukaDrive - 02-04-2023 I'm not as pessimistic about the Irving trade as a lot of yall. I think an Irving addition puts us right into championship contention. Even if it's just a half year rental we would get more flexibility for the future. A 2 year extension would be ideal, so we could flip him if he decides to go crazy and recoup some value back. I think a fair trade for both sides while making both of us better would be: Mavs: Irving, Harris Nets: Dinwiddie, Wood, THJ RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Mavs2021 - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: What's saddest to me is that I think he pretty much already has, and we're all spread out, stuck at various points along the "realization spectrum" about it. This might be the one special case scenario to get out of the mess this summer by facillitating this three-way deal, but I´m sure if you offered Cuban: Dinwiddie + DFS + 1st for Kyrie or Westbrook + Harris + 1st for Dinwiddie + Bertans + THJ + Wood he´d take option 1. 100% sure and that is the problem. It´s not inconceivable that our roster looks like this on July 1st: Doncic 40.0 Harris 19.9 (expiring) DFS 13.4 Kleber 11.0 Bullock 10.5 McGee 5.7 Green 4.7 Hardy 1.7 Lakers 1st round pick 106.9 against a projected 134.0 cap. That give you a legit pathway to a max cap slot (free agency leverage), but also a sizeable base expiring contract (Harris) to match for a star trade, Lavine for example. If you want to make it more win now and create an even bigger expiring, you could add Hayward/McDaniels for Harris/Powell/two 2nds to the deal. Work Bryant into the Lakers deal, and pull off a cheap deal for Bitadze or Bamba, I´d even argue the new current team is better this season. Doncic/Westbrook Green/Bullock Hayward/McDaniels DFS/Kleber Bamba/Bryant RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - SleepingHero - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:04 PM)Tyler Wrote: I see it the other way. Many Mavs fans are so irredeemably cynical right now that instead of enjoying the trade deadline they use every bit of news as pretext to rant about Cuban, hate their own team, think of trades that make other teams better at our expense, and talk about Luka eventually walking away. It's exhausting. I feel you on this (even though I've contributed a bit on the cynicism). It's definitely exhausting being a Mavs fan right now. Which is insane to me because Luka is by far and away the best NBA player I've seen the last 20 years. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1621931123218550786 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1621932407304736768 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - mvossman - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:04 PM)Tyler Wrote: I see it the other way. Many Mavs fans are so irredeemably cynical right now that instead of enjoying the trade deadline they use every bit of news as pretext to rant about Cuban, hate their own team, think of trades that make other teams better at our expense, and talk about Luka eventually walking away. It's exhausting. I share your exhaustion regarding the negativity on this board, but not sure I follow you on the trades that make other teams better at our expense? RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - RoyTarpleysGhost - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:37 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: because Luka is by far and away the best NBA player I've seen the last 20 years. Really? I dont think Luka is as good as Jokic or Giannis yet. (not to mention prime Lebron) RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - HoosierDaddyKid - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:50 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Really? Luka is almost there. The difference is, the other two's teams can win still win games if they have a poor game or sit one out. Luka has to go nuclear every game just for a chance for his team to win. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Tyler - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 01:48 PM)mvossman Wrote: I share your exhaustion regarding the negativity on this board, but not sure I follow you on the trades that make other teams better at our expense? To be fair, I was reacting to one I saw elsewhere where someone was taking the idea of facilitating a Brooklyn/Lakers deal to an extreme by keeping both of them in the title chase while punting on the Dallas roster for years. The negativity is certainly not limited to here. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/kyrie_irvings_trade_request_shifts_raptors_trade_odds_vegas_says/s1_16610_38430632 Quote:Once considered the second-most likely player to be dealt at the deadline, O.G. Anunoby has fallen to -300 to be dealt by the Toronto Raptors, conveying a 75% chance he's moved before Thursday, according to DraftKings. That represents nearly a 10% drop in probability following Irving's request. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 08:28 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Hey @"KillerLeft" it is apparently KIDD who wants Kyrie. MacMahon on the hoop collectives message was more along the lines of “Nico and Kidd have positive relationships with Kyrie but also have major hesitation” Also to the idea that MacMahon was reporting the mavs were going to offer DFS/Green couldn’t be further from the truth, he listed two guys KD likes and a package he thinks the Nets would accept. Goes on to say he doesn’t see the Mavs offering more than Hardaway/Wood. This will all blow over next week most likely when we aren’t involved with this but it’s fascinating to see this boards reaction. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 02:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/kyrie_irvings_trade_request_shifts_raptors_trade_odds_vegas_says/s1_16610_38430632 Love this, we need as much talent as possible on the market this offseason when we can actually offer something. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Scott41theMavs - 02-04-2023 Thing is with all the Mavs fans' cynicism is that it's a matter of 1) knowing how great Luka is, and 2) knowing he's very likely to force his way out if things don't improve bigtime in the next year or two. All they have to do is either go ridiculously all-in right now, or more reasonably all-in this summer on a trade for Siakam, and with even minimally-competent roster-building around that, it probably results in Luka staying. Two things could prevent this - 1) Siakam gets traded to someone else right now, or 2) the Mavs burn their true assets (Green, firsts, arguably DFS) on something stupid now. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - omahen - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 03:45 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: 1) Siakam gets traded to someone else right now, or 2) the Mavs burn their true assets (Green, firsts, arguably DFS) on something stupid now. 3) Toronto keeps Siakam as part of their core RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://twitter.com/DominickNBA/status/1621974240676421633 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-weekend-whispers RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - dirkfansince1998 - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 03:57 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/DominickNBA/status/1621974240676421633 RoCo + Zubac + 2 2nds for McGee + Wood RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 (02-04-2023, 04:08 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: RoCo + Zubac + 2 2nds for McGee + Wood Literally along the lines I was thinking. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Okstate819 - 02-04-2023 Reggie Jackson, Nic Batum, 2023 1st for Christian Wood, Javale Mcgee RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? D'Angelo? | TDL Feb 9 - Kammrath - 02-04-2023 https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1621979513998671872 |