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RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Mavs32 - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 09:35 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: an expansion on the THJ/CL trade For this year and the sake of continuity Luka/Rozier/Frank SD/Green/Hardy Hayward/(vet buyout guy)/Pinson DFS/Maxi/(vet buyout guy) Wood/Powell/Javelle next year you can move SD back to the bench and start Rozier as i feel they might be the better fit to start considering Roziers defense. Also, hopefully you can move Hayward to the bench by signing a real PF or promoting Maxi and DFS can start at the 3. Luka/SD/developmental/young pg Rozier/Green/Hardy DFS/Hayward Maxi or signed player Wood/Powell (if they keep him and lets be honest, they will)/Javelle RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Jason Terry - 01-07-2023 Levert-Hardaway is fair and we should do that trade. For all the reasons laid out. Build up Bertans, Bullock, McGees value too then trade them over the summer. Re-sign Wood and have the option and financial flexibility for Levert Let’s say Wood says no to 2 years… GSW: Wood and Levert DAL: Draymond, Divincenzo CLE: Hardaway Makes a lot of sense for all 3 teams RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - HoosierDaddyKid - 01-07-2023 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10060740-latest-nba-trade-buzz-keep-eyes-on-small-market-teams-with-money-to-burn RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - ItsGoTime - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 09:35 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: Cavs get THJOh man, if we have to take on that much salary (and help them save that much money) PJ HAS to be included. If the rumors are true and they are looking to bring Bridges back, they don’t need PJ either. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Jason Terry - 01-07-2023 Bullock for TJ McConnell Bullock for Covington Bullock for thad young Bullock for alec Burks Some others that could make sense RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Chicagojk - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 11:28 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Bullock for TJ McConnell Those all feel "Meh" to me. Of course, Bullock is super meh. I would much rather buying low on a guy with perceived upside. Cam Thomas or Cam Reddish. Both may be better in theory than on the court, but I am so tired of limited sort of win now players. Lets take a gamble. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 01-07-2023 Really curious what it would take to include Okoro. THJ/Frank/our two seconds for Lavert/Okoro? If you can get Okoro added without using Bullock then it gives you a lot of weapons to use this offseason. Bullock(cheaper buyout)/Okoro(expiring young player to test for a year)/first round picks is a good cap relief plus a young player plus draft capital. Much more powerful than what we could offer today. Plus we could always keep Okoro of course if we feel he’s a good fit. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - omahen - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 09:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Keeping THJ doesn’t make them a contender either, so that probably isn’t the standard. I am not interested in any of the moves unless they increase our asset base or make us a clear contender. I think LeVert decreases our long term asset base and doesn't make us a contender. (01-07-2023, 09:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don’t know who would start between SD and LeVert. As Killer said, both would start imho. (01-07-2023, 09:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: It should have been inferred, but in all of the various ways the LeVert contract might be used, the one I didn’t specifically mention was that he could be kept. These are the options: 1. Trade him again. I think we can agree this is basically close to zero possibility. If Mavs don't want him (just want to flip him) without having something already lined up, it makes no sense to trade for him in the first place. Realistic option here is a three team deal, which is of course a totally different conversation. 2. SnT - Mavs don't control him and he can go wherever he wants. SnT is a very long shot and even if it would happen, the compensation would be minimal (and it would likely include Mavs eating some salary). I don't put much hope in this option. See Brunson 3. Keep him. As I said, my opinion is, THJ is a better long term fit if Mavs manage to get that star player. They will get creation from that guy and shooting will be more important. 4. He walks for nothing. Mavs lost THJ and his contract. Cuban saves, Mavs have one contract less. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Kammrath - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 12:04 PM)omahen Wrote: I am not interested in any of the moves unless they increase our asset base or make us a clear contender. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - SleepingHero - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 11:28 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Bullock for TJ McConnell Bullock and McGee for Terrance Ross and Chuma Okeke Okeke is a solid Maxi replacement. Ross is THJ insurance. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - omahen - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 12:19 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Bullock and McGee for Terrance Ross and Chuma Okeke And how many picks? Orlando would be giving up two by far best players in this deal RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - SleepingHero - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 12:21 PM)omahen Wrote: And how many picks? Orlando would be giving up two by far best players in this deal None. Orlando is trying to lose. Both of those guys have fallen out of the rotation in favor for younger guys like Hampton, Banchero, Suggs and Fultz. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - omahen - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 12:46 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: None. Orlando is trying to lose. Both of those guys have fallen out of the rotation in favor for younger guys like Hampton, Banchero, Suggs and Fultz. If a team is trying to lose, it doesn't mean they are giving away better players for worse ones... On worse contracts... RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - omahen - 01-07-2023 Lets say each of the players below is available for an unprotected FRP: - Bogdanovic (Detroit) - Turner - it is basically his choice where he wants to be next season, I doubt Indy can get more than 1 FRP. I doubt anyone would pay unprotected FRP for a rental - Poeltl - VanVleet - Kuzma Outgoing salary is any combination of Bertans, THJ, Bullock and Powell. Can you see Mavs becoming a serious contender getting any 2-man combination from the list above? RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - KillerLeft - 01-07-2023 Reading through the comments about LaVert, it almost seems like "better ball handler" (relative to Hardaway, that's true) is being interpreted as "can play PG". For perspective, I'd say LaVert is a less of a PG than Dinwiddie is, and Dinwiddie is already a stretch at that position, imho. I think it's possible that LaVert can play as the second smallest player on the floor in some lineups, sure, but I wouldn't say we can think of him in a three-way rotation with Luka and Dinwiddie. If they traded for him, my guess is that they'd view him as the starting 3. He's basically a really poor man's Paul George. There are some advantages to replacing Hardaway with him, for sure, but also some disadvantages, and I really don't think it would solve the "what do we do without Brunson" problem. It would add another player to the mix who could dribble, so that's good. But my feeling is that here, that would manifest itself in the "better at attacking closeouts" way rather than the "we can run sets through him" way. If I'm wrong about any of that, my opinion of the trade would improve drastically. RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Kammrath - 01-07-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1611786284774686720 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Kammrath - 01-07-2023 https://twitter.com/HoopsRumors/status/1611782467005841411 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Kammrath - 01-07-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1611777435728596994 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - Kammrath - 01-07-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1611767064544382977 RE: TRADE & FA: Mavs interested in Nerlens? Collins? Bojan? LaVine? - KillerLeft - 01-07-2023 (01-07-2023, 01:49 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1611767064544382977 My dude getting dealt FOR SURE then. (01-07-2023, 01:48 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1611786284774686720 Here's another one who could be helpful for the Mavs. |