(12-12-2022, 04:11 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: despite being on the trade block for 12 months.

(12-12-2022, 02:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I actually prefer Wood, I think, but if Collins can be played 30+ minutes and finish games (in Kidd's mind) then I think it's easy to see how that trade would benefit the team, tbh. 

And, the contract could be a positive or a negative, based on POV. It would mean the chance of losing him for nothing this summer goes away, which could be a great improvement over Wood, if the fit is good.

(12-12-2022, 04:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: super bizarre for a player to be so overtly available so long

(12-12-2022, 04:45 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: It's likely the Mavs are the worst run team in the league.

(12-12-2022, 04:45 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I think like KP and Luka didn't work, Trae and JC doesn't work. JC has not been nearly the player he was since Trae came along.

(12-12-2022, 04:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Reading the Hawks reddit board and one poster was saying no one is going to take Collins contract without attaching a pick.  I am not sure if I agree and you know they Mavs will never be the team to get a pick in a trade.   But if his value is really negative a Wood and McGee trade for Collins works out.   The Hollinger rating has the Mavs losing 5 games in that trade.

(12-12-2022, 04:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Reading the Hawks reddit board and one poster was saying no one is going to take Collins contract without attaching a pick.  I am not sure if I agree and you know they Mavs will never be the team to get a pick in a trade.   But if his value is really negative a Wood and McGee trade for Collins works out.   The Hollinger rating has the Mavs losing 5 games in that trade.

(12-12-2022, 05:29 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: link?

(12-12-2022, 05:53 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: https://old.reddit.com/r/AtlantaHawks/comments/zk3m8p/new_inside_pass_at_theathletic_lakers_pursuits/

(12-12-2022, 08:02 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Rightfully or wrongly, I really think Kidd and the front office thinks the cheat code is Luka doing Luka things surrounded by shooters and defenders.   While Bullock has not been good at either, I fully expect they will give him every chance to rebound as they think this is the formula they are trying to capture.

(12-12-2022, 06:26 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Found this there pretty quickly:

"The thing is JC would probably have to play the same role on majority of teams because even though he’s been great at help defense and scoring in the low post, he still would be too little to play the 5 even though offensively playing Center fits him like a glove because he’s great at PnR. Still, teams would need him to be a stretch 4 and trading valuable guys for one who shoots 21% from the 3 rn and making 25Ms is not ideal."

I kind of agree with this. I'm a little worried that the best of Collins comes in the form of a smaller center, which doesn't appear to align with Kidd's plans. I honestly think the best course might be to keep Wood and try to play him in a smarter way. It might not work, but I'm not sure it comes with much more risk than Collins if they try to use him the way they're using Wood. 

(12-12-2022, 08:21 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think he is more likely to start and get over 30 minutes because of that

(12-12-2022, 08:26 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I agree, but I think the times when he has looked best offensively have been when he has played 5 with someone next to him like Hunter. I'm not saying he wouldn't get played more than Wood, just that I'm a little worried he wouldn't be the player some around here are hoping to acquire if he gets played like Wood is being played, more minutes or not. It seems like one of the major reasons he's available is that the Hawks have determined they A) don't want to play him at center and B) don't really like his game so much at the 4. 

So many of these front court players who seem like offensive threats kind of need an athletic advantage to do their thing, imo.

(12-12-2022, 08:40 PM)mvossman Wrote: I would argue that his ideal situation (similar to Wood) would be paired with a stretch 5 like Maxi.

(12-12-2022, 08:40 PM)mvossman Wrote: I would argue that his ideal situation (similar to Wood) would be paired with a stretch 5 like Maxi.  The Hawks don't have a player like that to pair him with, and they are basically choosing the Capela/Okongwu route over Collins.  The Mavs on the other hand, have a Maxi and don't have non shooting rim protecting center they have to play big minutes.  

Even if Kidd feels the need to put Maxi in the starting lineup to pair/protect Collins, I think he will be more willing to let Collins play single big minutes against second units.